creosote problem, need advice

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red247dog

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Dec 16, 2007
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maine
Hi there, need some advice, am new to wood burning, live in central maine. We have a 2k sq ft house heated by an old plate steel stove in the basement that goes into a masonry chimney lined with tile. Stove is relatively large, almost three feet deep, has a blower on it and a hot water coil that runs on the inside of the firebox. I had the chimney swept at the beginning of the season. House is a two story colonial with full uninsulated attic, so chimney must be 35 feet or so with the last 15 uninsulated.

Today, I opened up the clean out door to take a look up the chimney as we have been burning for 1.5 months or so. Before I could look up the chimney with my mirror, I pulled out a full kitchen sized garbage bag of dry crispy creosote that had accumulated below the thimble. I checked after he swept and it was clean, so this all built up in the last month or so. I have been burning dry wood and using an anti creosote powder from time to time. looks like there is additional blockage towards the top of the chimney, though hard to tell.

Thermometer on the stove pipe just above damper usually is in the 350 degree range and we try to burn it hot occasionally - 500 deg. or so for 15 minutes. I have been damping it down at night. I assume its a good thing that most of it is falling down the chimney rather staying up there, but I was shocked by how much had accumulated.

What should i do as far as changing habits, specifically in regards to proper burning temps to keep this from happening. Sould I have it swept again? I'd appreciate some advice.
 
The dampening it down at night might be where most of the creosote is coming from. Although on the old non-EPA stoves a lot of creosote is pretty normal. Other members with old stoves have reported needing the clean their chimney twice a year (once in the middle of the winter).
 
It's definately dampening down at night that causes that and it's probably par for the course with an old non-EPA stove. It's a good sign that the soot is crispy and is falling down, that means that you likely don't have 3rd degree build up. Sounds like your doing things correctly. Two things that might solve/help your accumulation all together would be replacing the stove completely or atleast relining it with a stainless liner.
 
thanks, My plan is to put a new stove upstairs next year to eliminate both this problem and get some more heat to the house, but you bring up an interesting point - should I reline the chimney with a stainless liner, or will the new stove do ok going into the 8" square tile flue? I know I need to talk to the retailer and such, but I would be interested in opinions on that as well. Why do you think the stainless would help with this old stove. I would do it now, but thee new stove will go in a different flue.
 
It would warm up faster and wouldn't build up as much soot. Though 8" square is pretty close so getting an (I assume) 8" liner down with insulation would be a chore. You're probably right in waiting until next year. Definately reline the new EPA rated stove though, it will perform optimally when lined. Alot less heat goes up the chimney in one of these units so to ensure proper draft a liner is almost always recommended.
 
I use an old balled up piece of chicken wire with a rope long enough to reach full length both ways up and down the chmminy..25 foot outside block 9 inch round tile lined and pull the wire up and down a few times does the trick.. But I make most of my creasote in a 6 foot horazonal run of 6 inch stove pipe. Easy enough to keep clean. Not much of a problem unless the little lady is home a weekend alone
 
This is a relatively inefficient way to heat the house - with an old steel stove and coils in it. It will produce lots of creosote and smoke,

You should rethink the whole process before even getting a new stove upstairs or downstairs. Possibly go hang our a bit in the Boiler Room to see if central heating might be an option.
You can usually get a 6" liner down an 8" square chimney, and most new stoves are 6" - even some boilers (central heaters) are only 6".
 
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