A "time out" for the Accentra

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Had/have same issues with new 52i. Posted last season the issue and greatful for the responses, did not get a solution. After cleaning (despite only burning 4 ton), appears my problem may be the door gasket. One corner is chewed and will focus on this when I restart this season.
 
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Had/have same issues with new 52i. Posted last season the issue and greatful for the responses, did not get a solution. After cleaning (despite only burning 4 ton), appears my problem may be the door gasket. One corner is chewed and will focus on this when I restart this season.

Hmm, thanks, I'll check that. Over the weekend, I ran the stove in a few short bursts and the light-off time varied each time. I did hear back from Harman, a rather perfunctory message -- "go see your dealer".
 
Hmm, thanks, I'll check that. Over the weekend, I ran the stove in a few short bursts and the light-off time varied each time. I did hear back from Harman, a rather perfunctory message -- "go see your dealer".

Yep. Harman refers 99% of inquiries to the dealer so that the dealer can make $$$ on service. It's part of the dealer agreement. My ignition time is consistently around a minute, sometimes under. Always has been. Don't know what to tell you.
 
Yep. Harman refers 99% of inquiries to the dealer so that the dealer can make $$$ on service. It's part of the dealer agreement. My ignition time is consistently around a minute, sometimes under. Always has been. Don't know what to tell you.
So let me get this straight...an empty hopper fills up with enough pellets and you have ignition and flame in less than one minute?
 
Ignition time is after auger stop. Total time including filling the firepot never went much over two minutes total from empty unless there was a problem. I timed it in several instances last year.

Pot is empty now. Stove is stone cold. Been off all day. If I remember I'll time the entire evolution when it cranks up later tonight and post it.
 
OK. Just Fired up from stone cold. Time to fill burn pot = 1 minute 23 seconds. Time to ignition after auger stop = 56 seconds. Burn pot was left with ash in it from last fire. Next time I'll clean it and time again.

EDIT: Scraped loose ash out of hole area. Stove off for three hours. On restart 1.5 minutes to auger stop, fire 19 seconds later.
 
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Agreed. My Accentra Insert fires up in less than a minute. Along with the igniter cleaning are you feeding enough pellets on initial start? Dip switch settings control that. I believe it's the first three.
Less than a minute? It takes 3 minutes to load the pot before the auger cycle stops. Maybe a minute after that...
 
Maybe yours does. My dipswitches are set to stop the auger after a minute thirty. (See your manual for setting the first three switches.) It IS adjustsble you know, and I've found that to a point the more pellets you have in the firepot the slower ignition seems to be. See above for fill and ignition times.

And of course the ignition time is after auger stop. You can't ignite what isn't there but the entire process is still is around two minutes total with fire consistently in a minute or less after auger stop.
 
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Less than a minute? It takes 3 minutes to load the pot before the auger cycle stops. Maybe a minute after that...
That was my question too, Scott. As he has explained above, he has altered the default dip switch settings to about half of what the rest of us have. So this one minute ignition he constantly speaks of is actually 2 1/2 to 3 minutes if you figure in the auger fill time. Mine is about 4-5 minutes most of the time with the default settings. Makes more sense now that he has explained it.
 
altered the default dip switch settings to about half of what the rest of us have.

The cynic in me is pondering this from a "what could go wrong" viewpoint, resistant to making changes to settings that actually work, if imperfectly. Time to ponder more...
 
The cynic in me is pondering this from a "what could go wrong" viewpoint, resistant to making changes to settings that actually work, if imperfectly. Time to ponder more...
I hear ya....I just get nervous when folks start messing with dip switches and such. Clearly F4Jock has full command of his Accentra and that's fine. I just don't think the "average" Joe should be trying these things.
 
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The cynic in me is pondering this from a "what could go wrong" viewpoint, resistant to making changes to settings that actually work, if imperfectly. Time to ponder more...

All you have to do is put enough pellets in the firepot to cover a row or two of holes. Been doing it this way for going on eight years. Been through one igniter in that time. Not telling anyone what to do, merely what works for me. While I like to play with my stove, in the final analysis it's a heating appliance and I expect it to work when it's cold and keep approximately half the house warm with a minimum of fuss and maintenance. So far it has done this.
 
You can always put them back ya know!

Look. If your stove is doing what you want, when you want, how you want, let it be! I'm a serial optimizer. I admit it. If you aren't comfortable with playing with dipswitches by all means don't! I just like to have everything working as designed and specified and if I can improve it, I do so. I do tons of research first though and always have a back-up and am sure I can restore things if I screw up.

One interesting thing I found: If you run Room / Auto, the more pellets you have in the pot at startup the larger the flame and the dirtier the glass gets faster.
 
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the more pellets you have in the pot at startup the larger the flame and the dirtier the glass gets faster.

Easy enough to believe. When I have a fair amount of pellets at startup in the pot, the flames are rather high, licking at the top of the stove and against the glass until it "calms down", then I have more to clean. More fuel = more flame.
 
Continuing saga of my ignition woes:

11/23/15 evening: weekly cleaning of the stove and, true to form, trouble. After two complete attempts ending in time-out-shutoff, I gave in and called my dealer for a service call. The best they could do was (not a typo) 12/30/15! I agreed, glad that it’s not my only heat source, and made sure a new ignitor would be brought. Over the phone they had no idea on what the issue is and only recommended “look on YouTube and figure it out yourself”. I am highly resistant to “becoming a stove tech”, but I give in on this, I need to watch how an ignitor is installed and then keep a spare handy. The stove started up just fine the next morning.

The following week: Most evenings and the holiday weekend, I turned to stove on, it started right up (5-8 minutes). Again, we’re recreational users, so it is evenings and weekend days, I only did one overnight burn so far.

11/30/15 evening: cleaned it again. Looking for the answer behind why I only have trouble after a cleaning, I wondered if taking everything out of the burn pot is the cause, so afterwards I reintroduced perhaps two tablespoons’ worth of ash to the burn pot. I had one full time-out shut-down, and perhaps fifteen minutes into a second (I removed most of the new-pellet-accrual from the burnpot between attempts) and then it lit and ran just fine.

I betcha it will fire up just fine this evening. The only variable I can think of is that in a borderline situation, it needs some ash in the compartment under the burnpot where the ignitor reside to facilitate ignition, and by vacuuming it out (with the small-diameter hose) I’m taking that away each clean-out.

Data point: I’m only turning on the stove in Stove Temp mode, the knob turned counterclockwise barely enough to have the system turn on.
 
Continuing saga of my ignition woes:

11/23/15 evening: weekly cleaning of the stove and, true to form, trouble. After two complete attempts ending in time-out-shutoff, I gave in and called my dealer for a service call. The best they could do was (not a typo) 12/30/15! I agreed, glad that it’s not my only heat source, and made sure a new ignitor would be brought. Over the phone they had no idea on what the issue is and only recommended “look on YouTube and figure it out yourself”. I am highly resistant to “becoming a stove tech”, but I give in on this, I need to watch how an ignitor is installed and then keep a spare handy. The stove started up just fine the next morning.

The following week: Most evenings and the holiday weekend, I turned to stove on, it started right up (5-8 minutes). Again, we’re recreational users, so it is evenings and weekend days, I only did one overnight burn so far.

11/30/15 evening: cleaned it again. Looking for the answer behind why I only have trouble after a cleaning, I wondered if taking everything out of the burn pot is the cause, so afterwards I reintroduced perhaps two tablespoons’ worth of ash to the burn pot. I had one full time-out shut-down, and perhaps fifteen minutes into a second (I removed most of the new-pellet-accrual from the burnpot between attempts) and then it lit and ran just fine.

I betcha it will fire up just fine this evening. The only variable I can think of is that in a borderline situation, it needs some ash in the compartment under the burnpot where the ignitor reside to facilitate ignition, and by vacuuming it out (with the small-diameter hose) I’m taking that away each clean-out.

Data point: I’m only turning on the stove in Stove Temp mode, the knob turned counterclockwise barely enough to have the system turn on.
Your problem may be not enough pellets to hit the igniter's "Sweet Spot." I'm traveling now so I don't have access to my dipswitche chart but it's a ten minute or less process and two screws to pop the board and give yourself another 15 seconds feed. I'm sure someone here haso the chart and can tell you which switches go where or you can look on line.
 
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