An install question on a Quad Cumberland Gap WS...please help..

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Sierranevada

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Dec 10, 2007
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near Lake Tahoe
I have an opportunity to buy a Quad Cumberland Gap very reasonably (used) and want to know if it is feasible to install it in my masonry fireplace. I currently have a 1988 Lopi insert in the FP, but want to get a good looking EPA compliant stove. I've looked at the manual for the CG and it looks feasible spacewise. I think, if it can be set back into the fireplace, that it won't take up much more hearthspace than my current insert does.

BUT My fp is 29 and 1/8 inches high brick to hearth at the front and the CG is 27 and 11/16 tall to the top of the vent and stove body. The front of the fp is about 6" deep horizontally and, of course, the rest of the fireplace going up to the flue is taller, so installers could (I think) reach in to manipulate the existing vent pipe onto the vent on the back of the stove. Is this installation feasible or do installers need more room to play with? This would essentially only allow about 1 and 1/2 inches of head room at the front face of the fp. It looks like my existing vent pipe (6" flexible homesaver) would align with the vent on the stove pretty well, but would have to be raised from the top as the Lopi is shorter than this CG.

Is this doable???? I am going to look at the stove now, but don't want to purchase it if I'm not certain I can get it installed. It's so reasonably priced I know it will sell quickly. Any thoughts/ help would be greatly appreciated.
 
OK, why won't anyone touch this one? Would really appreciate some feedback. Assuming all my measurements are accurate, are there any reasons this wouldn't work?? Nothing in the manual about the type of install I want to do, so no help there. I can't do a free standing installation, only through the fireplace.

I went to see the stove yesterday and it's in like-new condition. Love the style of it. I think it has everything I need, but I need to make a decision on it. Thoughts?
 
livesw/bigtrees said:
OK, why won't anyone touch this one? Would really appreciate some feedback. Assuming all my measurements are accurate, are there any reasons this wouldn't work?? Nothing in the manual about the type of install I want to do, so no help there. I can't do a free standing installation, only through the fireplace.

I went to see the stove yesterday and it's in like-new condition. Love the style of it. I think it has everything I need, but I need to make a decision on it. Thoughts?

I imagine a lot of people are still shovelin out or at work.

Welcome aboard and have some patience!
 
Did you have some pictures of the fireplace and were you going to slide the stove back into the space? I'm having a hard time visualizing how you are are envisioning the install.
 
It sounds like it may be feasible, but is it desirable to lose the side loading option or is the fireplace wide enough so that this won't be an issue? Have you considered extending the hearth and rear-exiting from the stove? The benefit will be side-loading and more of the stove in the room for more radiant heat. If you are in an area of frequent power outages, this could be an important benefit.

If the stove is in excellent condition and shows no signs of overfiring, and the price is great, then I'd probably go for it. It sounds like you have options regarding the installation that can be worked out.
 
OK, I bought the stove. Will pick it up this weekend when my sons are home. I probably won't get it installed for awhile since my roof if ultra steep and snow covered.

Anyway, when I printed the clearances pages from the manual to figure out installation issues, I realized there's no way to get the required clearance from my mantel and to install I'll have to change it (the mantel). Current mantel is a beautiful beam, perfectly matched to the ceiling beams: fir I think. Bummer! I'll have to go to a slab of stone of something else nonflammable. The current mantel is supported by iron bars inbedded in the brick fireplace. I was trying to think of a way to raise it, but even then would have to use some sort of heat shield. Ideas?

I am going to post a photo of the hearth, but need to get my act together with my camera.

On the topic of the side door...Is that a major advantage to this stove? I've never had a side loading stove, so I don't know. I was just going to lock it shut and build/load from the front. Thanks for your help in this on-going saga of trying to remodel/ redo an older (but very cool) house on a slim budget!
 
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