Am I the only one that doesn't care much for hickory?

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CountryBoy19

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Jul 29, 2010
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I realize that in many areas "beggars cannot be choosers" applies and whatever wood you can scrounge is good, especially high BTU woods like hickory. This thread would be less applicable to those folks.

For folks in areas where good hardwoods are not only plentiful, but also readily/easily scrounged to the point that you can be "choosy" this would be more applicable.

Does anybody else dislike hickory? With the likes of black locust, oak, dead ash, and the occasional hedge tree all readily available for "easy pickins" around me, I've lately found myself really hating on hickory. It's a beautiful wood but it takes a while to season (like Oak) and the powder post beetles just make a mess. The dust gets everywhere, there is a risk of bringing the beetles inside the house and getting an infestation... It just seems to me that all the advantages of hickory can be had in Oak, Black Locust, & Hedge without the downside of the mess that Hickory makes. Am I missing something?

Why mess with hickory? I'm at the point that I'm just going to make the most of all the dead standing ash that I can, let me oak season for several years, and burn the hickory in the campfires (or trade it to a friend that runs a BBQ joint).

Disclaimer: I haven't burned much hickory. I burned a little my first year. It wasn't until a year ago I was able to get my hands on some hickory again. Checked with a moisture meter after a full year of split and single-row stacked in an exposed location and still "OL" on the meter. I'll have to wait for next year to try burning it I guess. The bugs sure love it; my stacks are almost completely "caked" together with sawdust.
 
I'll take hickory all day long.
Can you elaborate more? My post wasn't really a statement, more a "this is the way I feel, am I missing something?"

Do you not get powder post beetles? Do you not care about the mess? Do you use an outdoor boiler etc so the mess isn't a concern?
Are there characteristics of hickory that justify the mess over the less messy but similar BTU woods?

Does hickory burn that much better than oak or ash?
 
If I had a big mess of hickory I would probably use it for BBQ rather than just firewood.

Question though, I would expect freshly cut sap up hardwoods to be down to the fiber saturation point, +/- 30% MC in maybe two or three weeks after split and stacked. You are one year out from splitting and still showing "overload" on the moisture meter?

Not a lot of experience with hardwoods lately, but I wonder if that stack of wood maybe needs more sun or more wind to get the wood drier faster adn keep the beetles away?
 
Can you elaborate more?
Dries in a reasonable time frame. Packs a BTU punch. Coals well, burns hot and not much ash. I don't have much of a problem with the mess. Once in a while I will see some powder, but not any kind of "infestation" or anything.

If I was limited to only ONE kind of wood to burn - I would pick hickory.
 
If I had a big mess of hickory I would probably use it for BBQ rather than just firewood.

Question though, I would expect freshly cut sap up hardwoods to be down to the fiber saturation point, +/- 30% MC in maybe two or three weeks after split and stacked. You are one year out from splitting and still showing "overload" on the moisture meter?

Not a lot of experience with hardwoods lately, but I wonder if that stack of wood maybe needs more sun or more wind to get the wood drier faster adn keep the beetles away?
It's stacked single-row, on pallets, on a hill running from SSE to NNW (which means late afternoon through sundown exposure to the sun and full exposure to the prevailing winds). It's not my stacks (location, direction, stacking style etc), the Tulip Poplar stacked right by the hickory (CSS'd at the same time as the hickory as well) is already in the low-mid teens on moisture and the silver maple CSS'd this past spring is right around 20%.

If there is anything that I think may be causing the Hickory to dry so slowly it would be the thick layer of sawdust caked on top of all the pieces of wood.
 
I realize that in many areas "beggars cannot be choosers" applies and whatever wood you can scrounge is good, especially high BTU woods like hickory. This thread would be less applicable to those folks.

For folks in areas where good hardwoods are not only plentiful, but also readily/easily scrounged to the point that you can be "choosy" this would be more applicable.

Does anybody else dislike hickory? With the likes of black locust, oak, dead ash, and the occasional hedge tree all readily available for "easy pickins" around me, I've lately found myself really hating on hickory. It's a beautiful wood but it takes a while to season (like Oak) and the powder post beetles just make a mess. The dust gets everywhere, there is a risk of bringing the beetles inside the house and getting an infestation... It just seems to me that all the advantages of hickory can be had in Oak, Black Locust, & Hedge without the downside of the mess that Hickory makes. Am I missing something?

Why mess with hickory? I'm at the point that I'm just going to make the most of all the dead standing ash that I can, let me oak season for several years, and burn the hickory in the campfires (or trade it to a friend that runs a BBQ joint).

Disclaimer: I haven't burned much hickory. I burned a little my first year. It wasn't until a year ago I was able to get my hands on some hickory again. Checked with a moisture meter after a full year of split and single-row stacked in an exposed location and still "OL" on the meter. I'll have to wait for next year to try burning it I guess. The bugs sure love it; my stacks are almost completely "caked" together with sawdust.

I'm in Indiana too. I'd be happy to take all the Hickory off your hands that you want to get rid of. I love the stuff.
 
Awhile ago I posted a similar thread except substitute Black Locust for Hickory. I'll trade you my Black Locust for your Hickory, I love it and it kicks ass!
 
Dries in a reasonable time frame. Packs a BTU punch. Coals well, burns hot and not much ash. I don't have much of a problem with the mess. Once in a while I will see some powder, but not any kind of "infestation" or anything.

If I was limited to only ONE kind of wood to burn - I would pick hickory.

I find the exact opposite of this ^^^^. Stacks are filled with powder dust, burns long but not very hot, and leaves a ton of ashes. I have burned shellbark and shag. I am using up the last I have this year just to be rid of it before the bugs get it all. I will mix it with oak this year. I will not get more hickory.
 
I hear you on the heavy ashes with hickory - my hickory was only a year seasoned, I wonder if it needed more time? Zero bug problems though.
 
No hickory up here, but, I'm kinda the same way with elm. I cut a bunch of it a couple weeks ago on a roadside cut and left it for anyone who wants it. I have plenty of other, more manageable, wood to work with.
 
Awhile ago I posted a similar thread except substitute Black Locust for Hickory. I'll trade you my Black Locust for your Hickory, I love it and it kicks ass!
If we were close I would take you up on that offer anytime!!! I LOVE black locust. It works especially well on a hot reload because it's so hard to ignite that it actually lasts a good while longer than other woods when placed directly on hot coals...
 
Hickory also rots out faster than a lot of woods; Can't leave it lying around like you can some others. The beetles attack it in my stacks, but not all that bad. They go after my Black Cherry as well. That said, I love the way it burns...lasts forever. Seems to burn a little easier that BL. I've got a dead standing Shag to grab when I get a chance. Busy raking leaves now... :rolleyes:
 
I've cut one live hickory in my adult life. Every single stick had bugs, hickory borer beetles. They don't like anything but hickory and won't infest your house, but they are messy.

No complaints on the way it burns. Maybe only that it's a little on the sparky side. Shagbark anyway.
 
Tough crowd.
Hating on Black Locust
Hating on Hickory.....I'll bet if I toss the word "Pine" out there you would feel the love in the air....;lol;lol;lol
 
Tough crowd.
Hating on Black Locust
Hating on Hickory.....I'll bet if I toss the word "Pine" out there you would feel the love in the air....;lol;lol;lol
Just to be clear, I'm not hating on it, I would happily burn it (mess included) if that was my only option for good, high-BTU wood. But I have LOTS of options and most of them are easier to split, don't come with a mess attached, and season just as fast for faster than the Hickory...
 
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I was burning bitternut and pignut hickory last winter and the aroma was amazing. Very pleasant. Up to that point, I thought black cherry was the best, but no more. The splits were from big rounds, so I had a bunch of 2" squares, and once they were dry, the wood had this wonderful intrinsic beauty, tight grain, and a really cool tactile feel.

Hickory is a risky wood to scrounge. You can wear yourself out with 100% of the weight of green wood just to find out down the pike that 50% of the round is punky!! And no way has that ever happened to me two or more times...

I've got some shagbark in the stacks split small for a year and I know there's no way it'll be ready this winter.
 
I just split 5 big rounds of hickory. I like the way you can split it down to 4"x4" blocks. Looks like a stack of white bricks. Can't wait for it to turn gray. If I had a choice, I would definately make it part of my firewood. I always save hickory for cold snowy nights.
 
If hickory is a mess it's a hot mess!! BTU' is what it's all about for me.
When I burn wood I burn it for heat. Why wouldn't I like hickory? Even Ted Williams liked hickory.
 
I'll take hickory ALL DAY LONG.
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Dries in a reasonable time frame. Packs a BTU punch. Coals well, burns hot and not much ash
X2 BTW...the shag bark I burnt through a couple years ago was a wood burners dream! I only have a bit of it in the stacks now, wish I had more!
 
We have an abundance of hickory here in SEMO. I love burning it and never really had a hard time splitting it. Sweet gum on the other hand.
 
My yard is full of mature shagbark hickory trees. I have not yet burned any, other than small branches that shed from time to time and I'm not in a hurry to cut them down either. Its just a matter of time before a decent size limb to comes down. So as of now my only complaint about hickory is trying to clean up all the hickory nuts that smother the lawn.
 
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