Auger Motor Will not come off...

ShaneR34 · Nov 12, 2015

I've been fighting with this for 2 or more hours now and I'm about ready to go at my stove with a sledge hammer.

The auger motor will not come off the shaft. I've tried a crowbar and banging at it (carefully) with a rubber mallet. It ain't budging. Trying to get it off to replace the bushing.

Any ideas?

Oh...stove is Enviro EF3.

Thanks...

MountainSean · Nov 12, 2015

ShaneR34 said:
I've been fighting with this for 2 or more hours now and I'm about ready to go at my stove with a sledge hammer.

The auger motor will not come off the shaft. I've tried a crowbar and banging at it (carefully) with a rubber mallet. It ain't budging. Trying to get it off to replace the bushing.

Any ideas?

Oh...stove is Enviro EF3.

Thanks...

I would take the auger motor and shaft out of the stove completely by removing the mounting plate. That will let you get a better angle to pull the auger motor off. You can also try heating up the collar where the auger motor is held into the shaft, but be careful as you can get the motor too hot and bad things can happen with the oil inside the casing.

ShaneR34 · Nov 12, 2015

Thanks.

However, due to how the EF3 is put together in the back, there's no way to get the entire assembly out without first removing the motor. I already tried.

I'll try the heating the area. If that's doesn't work, I'll need to call someone.

Park · Nov 12, 2015

My auger motor is a pain as well, they install the motor and then put the hopper over it so i need to nudge the hopper up to get it out, would love to see pics of your issue.

ShaneR34 · Nov 12, 2015

Well, finally got it off. Ended up using some wd40 and hitting it with a screwdriver and hammer. Not sure if the WD40 did anything, but.......

Now...guess what? I can't get the old bushing off. LOL....I'm at the point where I'm laughing now...I mean, really.

Park, sorry buddy. I'm dealing with too much on this right now to worry about photos....maybe some other time.

richkorn · Nov 12, 2015

Just did this with me Leyden. Had to remove the motor stop first and then after loosening the allen set screw on the bushing attaching the motor to the bottom of the auger, the motor slid right off.

Getting the lower bearing plate off was more challenging, but it comes off.

Park · Nov 12, 2015

Heat and beat works.

ShaneR34 · Nov 12, 2015

Well...Manged to get the bushing off. Finally.

Does anyone know if the lower bushing for the EF3 is "specially" machined, or is it standard? I was planning on just using some silicone in there to get me through this season, but it's worse than expected and too far gone. My father-in-law looked at it, took measurements, and said it appears to be standard. But, it's so bad that it's hard to be sure.

I only ask as I'm getting quoted 60+ Canadian and he says it should be a $5.00 part at any shop that carries bushings.

Thanks.

MountainSean · Nov 12, 2015

ShaneR34 said:
Well...Manged to get the bushing off. Finally.

Does anyone know if the lower bushing for the EF3 is "specially" machined, or is it standard? I was planning on just using some silicone in there to get me through this season, but it's worse than expected and too far gone. My father-in-law looked at it, took measurements, and said it appears to be standard. But, it's so bad that it's hard to be sure.

I only ask as I'm getting quoted 60+ Canadian and he says it should be a $5.00 part at any shop that carries bushings.

Thanks.

It is going to be either a 3/4 or 5/8" oil impregnated bronze bushing depending on the year of manufacture. I don't know what the OD or the lip size is though.

ShaneR34 · Nov 12, 2015

MountainSean said:
It is going to be either a 3/4 or 5/8" oil impregnated bronze bushing depending on the year of manufacture. I don't know what the OD or the lip size is though.

I just did a search online for some images, and yeah, there is a lip (makes sense). There isn't on mine...that's how badly worn it is. Unless I'm missing something.

Looks like It would best to pay the price and get the proper one.

Thanks, guys. Appreciate the help.

bcarton · Nov 12, 2015

For the price of that bushing you could get a new mounting plate with a "Nylatron" bearing that a lot of folks like. A few places sell them online, don't know about getting it to Canada in your required timeline. I know East Coast Hearth sells them.

ShaneR34 · Nov 13, 2015

bcarton said:
For the price of that bushing you could get a new mounting plate with a "Nylatron" bearing that a lot of folks like. A few places sell them online, don't know about getting it to Canada in your required timeline. I know East Coast Hearth sells them.

Thanks. I've had a look at those in the past. Now, though, with the exchange rate the way it is (and shipping/duty) it's quite a bit cheaper to go with the old bushing. I don't believe I've ever found an online retailer located in Canada.

Anyway...I'm going to make a few calls this morning and see if I can do any better on price. Yeah, I'm cheap..lol

ShaneR34 · Nov 13, 2015

Well...the story continues. The top bushing is gone too, now that I've had a look online. A washer shaped piece is all that's left. Obviously, I have zero knowledge when it comes to this stuff.

My father-in-law is refusing to let spend that amount of money, though lol. He was a machinist for his career, so he's coming over to take measurements and get the bushings himself...and machine them if he has too.

Fun times.

ShaneR34 · Nov 13, 2015

Last post. I promise.

All figured out. My father corrected my lack of understanding on some things. I won't say what 'cause it's crazy embarrassing. :D

Anyway. I don't come to this forum much any longer since my stove is usually trouble free and I've learned enough to get by most times, but I'm glad you guys are around when I'm stumped.

Thanks a bunch for this assist.

bags · Nov 14, 2015

Stick around and let everyone know what it was and what you did. That is how info is obtained by people in a jam just like you. We all get stumped and then go Duh! at times so share please.

ShaneR34 · Feb 12, 2016

bags said:
Stick around and let everyone know what it was and what you did. That is how info is obtained by people in a jam just like you. We all get stumped and then go Duh! at times so share please.

Sorry, have not been around here since my last post above in November, so I missed this.

Anyway, my "duh" moment...what the heck:

The bottom bushing was so badly worn, that it was in two pieces. Never having seen one before, I assumed there were actually two bushings involved: an upper and a lower. Duh.

In the end, my Father-in-Law just purchased the right sized (and type) bushing for $4.00 from a local shop and cut the length himself to the right size. The bushing is still turning in there, but he said there's nothing you can do about it due to the design. Just keep it well oiled. He's been a machinist for the better part of his life, so I'll believe him.

So...next year, I'll look at getting a new replacement plate with the Nylatron bearing that cures these issues.

bags · Feb 13, 2016

It's amazing sometimes how a little small dollar part or issue can wrench the spokes so to speak. Many times it is something simple that can bring the whole machine down. Luckily your father-in-law has the experience he does. Hope you are staying warm. It is single digits here and a really cold snap going on. I am over this cold crap. Sick of it as I am a contractor and have been working out in it. No fun.

ShaneR34 · Feb 13, 2016

We're in a bit of cold snap now, but it should only last a few days. Overall, the temps here is Atlantic Canada have been pretty mild this year (thanks to El Nino, I'd guess). I've certainly burned less pellets so far this season.

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