CyberPower PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC $139.95

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CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower $139.95 & FREE Shipping

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=04e7e18c976311e586fa322ab8b4d5e40000

  • Pure Sine Wave UPS system - 1500VA/900 Watts, designed to support Active PFC power supplies and conventional power supplies.
  • Line interactive, AVR and GreenPower - Protects PCs, workstations, and home entertainment systems. Prevents data loss and protects electronic equipment from harmful power problems.
  • Multifunction LCD provides runtime in minutes, battery status, load level and other status information.
  • Output Connections: (5) Battery Backup & Surge Protected Outlets, (5) Surge Protected Outlets.
  • Energy Star Certified - Mini-Tower Form Factor - 3 Year Warranty




 
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mik_kane said:
CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower $139.95 & FREE Shipping

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=04e7e18c976311e586fa322ab8b4d5e40000




    • Pure Sine Wave UPS system - 1500VA/900 Watts, designed to support Active PFC power supplies and conventional power supplies.
    • Line interactive, AVR and GreenPower - Protects PCs, workstations, and home entertainment systems. Prevents data loss and protects electronic equipment from harmful power problems.
    • Multifunction LCD provides runtime in minutes, battery status, load level and other status information.
    • Output Connections: (5) Battery Backup & Surge Protected Outlets, (5) Surge Protected Outlets.
    • Energy Star Certified - Mini-Tower Form Factor - 3 Year Warranty


........and your question is?

Bill
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.......and your question is? Bill
 
It probably does NOT include a battery, that's up to you to provide. Costco sells 100 amp/hour deep cycle marine batteries for around $100....So does Wally-World....
 
Fairwind said:
It probably does NOT include a battery, that's up to you to provide. Costco sells 100 amp/hour deep cycle marine batteries for around $100....So does Wally-World....
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It's a back up UPS of course the battery is included. This is the best price I have seen for this pure sine wave ups by $10
 
mik_kane said:
It's a back up UPS of course the battery is included. This is the best price I have seen for this pure sine wave ups by $10
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Hi Mik_Kane
I have the exact model...had for over 2.5 years. First, (knock on wood) I have not had a power failure of more than about 5 minutes plus or minus while using the stove. We have the M55 and a lamp with an LED light plugged in and my wife knows the drill: First, go to the T-Stat and shut off the stove and then go to the stove and hit the power button. These two steps put the stove in a instant shutdown which takes about 17-20 minutes. Even though we have adequate vertical natural draft, I don't want to mess around with the slight chance of any smoke getting in the house. My wife loves the stove, but I know she would be pissed off if any smoke got in....
During very brief outages and light flickering the UPS works great, the stove just keeps chugging along. Seeing how my stove draws a max of 750 watts plus during start-up, I don't think the UPS would keep it going for more than about 10 min+- Other than that, I think it works fine for what I need....
Bill
 
mik_kane said:
CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower $139.95 & FREE Shipping

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=04e7e18c976311e586fa322ab8b4d5e40000




    • Pure Sine Wave UPS system - 1500VA/900 Watts, designed to support Active PFC power supplies and conventional power supplies.
    • Line interactive, AVR and GreenPower - Protects PCs, workstations, and home entertainment systems. Prevents data loss and protects electronic equipment from harmful power problems.
    • Multifunction LCD provides runtime in minutes, battery status, load level and other status information.
    • Output Connections: (5) Battery Backup & Surge Protected Outlets, (5) Surge Protected Outlets.
    • Energy Star Certified - Mini-Tower Form Factor - 3 Year Warranty
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Hmmm...showing as $215 here. Anyhow, I have this exact unit that I bought last year thru Newegg, for about $160 connected to my pellet stove. I think they've even had them as low as $150. I also have a smaller 1000VA unit connected to my Home theater setup, and two of their smaller 750VA AVR units connected to my computer and my wifi router/home security setup. I used to be all APC, but when 3 of their units died within a couple months of each other, though they were all bought at different times, I decided to switch.

Okay, if you look in the "Other Sellers" box, you'll see the $139 price, if you click on that, you get the $139 pricing.
 
The $139 (now $215) UPS seems to have a 10 amp-hour battery..If you try to draw the 900 watts of rated power, they unit can provide back-up power for a minute or two..It should keep a 300 watt stove going for 15 minutes maybe...
 
Fairwind said:
The $139 (now $215) UPS seems to have a 10 amp-hour battery..If you try to draw the 900 watts of rated power, they unit can provide back-up power for a minute or two..It should keep a 300 watt stove going for 15 minutes maybe...
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I may be wrong, but I believe it has two 8.5amp-hour batteries inside.

Though I haven't run my stove yet this season, it usually draws about 100watts on higher fan settings and the LCD says it can run 65 minutes, if memory serves. I know I've written it in other threads. I hope I'm not wrong.
 
chken said:
I may be wrong, but I believe it has two 8.5amp-hour batteries inside.

Though I haven't run my stove yet this season, it usually draws about 100watts on higher fan settings and the LCD says it can run 65 minutes, if memory serves. I know I've written it in other threads. I hope I'm not wrong.
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You could very well be correct..If it has two 8.5 AH 12V batteries connected in series for 24 volts, it could indeed provide a longer back-up time....My stove pulls 300 watts in normal operation and almost 500 during the 10 minute start-up procedure. At my location, electric service is very reliable even during winter storms so a UPS is not a priority item..I'm hoping an emergency shut-down of my stove (power failure) would proceed without too much drama....
 
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My stove uses about 75 watt's running, have no igniter so that's not a issue, should run for a hour on backup, I owned a Triplite 1500 and it didn't last 5 mins, quickly returned to Costco
 
CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower $139.95 & FREE Shipping

I have this UPS on my Ecoteck elena, which draws about 265 watts when it is running (fans and auger motor, ignitor not on). I hooked up the coil of a self-latching relay to the utility power (before the UPS), and the Normally Open relay contacts are wired in series with my auger motor. If the utility power drops out, the relay stops the auger, and the UPS provides enough power, long enough, to keep the combustion blower running till the burn-pot is out. This is my automatic way to prevent any smoke back-up, since I have horizontal vent-pipe configuration (no natural draft). Once utility power returns, I must push a momentary push-button switch that energizes the relay back-on, so that I can restart the stove.
 
forgive my ignorance but could you and would it be wise to use the Pure Sine Wave UPS system for a generator for long term power outages?
 
biomass burner said:
forgive my ignorance but could you and would it be wise to use the Pure Sine Wave UPS system for a generator for long term power outages?
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Well, these consumer-grade pure sine wave UPSes as in this post, max out at 1500VA, so if you mean an hour or so, then you're fine. If you need longer, you'll have to follow what some others have done and connect a series of batteries to a high-quality pure-sine UPS. However, most people who need a longer backup usually go with an inverter generator, like the Honda or Yamaha.
 
chken said:
Well, these consumer-grade pure sine wave UPSes as in this post, max out at 1500VA, so if you mean an hour or so, then you're fine. If you need longer, you'll have to follow what some others have done and connect a series of batteries to a high-quality pure-sine UPS. However, most people who need a longer backup usually go with an inverter generator, like the Honda or Yamaha.
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thanks!!
 
I've deployed about 20 Cyberpower UPS to support various servers over the last 5 years. Each one has been rock solid, and the pure sinewave inverter on these isn't hard on the electronics.

Many generators (onan diesel) inverter cuts the top of the sinewave off, making it look square on the oscilloscope. Which is hard on some electronics, I've seen some PBX systems that wouldn't even run.

Another good UPS is those from Minuteman.

www.pcnation.com
 
When normal power is supplied to these Cyberpower ups, it does nothing to condition it. So if you feed it with dirty power it passes it right thru to the stove. The only time you get the pure sine wave is when its working on its battery. A true UPS as used in large data centers takes the utility power converts it to direct current and then back to pure alternating current. The batteries would then immediately take over and make the pure AC on utility power failure. So feeding square sine waves from a portable generator get passed right thru the $150 "UPSs.
 
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When normal power is supplied to these Cyberpower ups, it does nothing to condition it. So if you feed it with dirty power it passes it right thru to the stove. The only time you get the pure sine wave is when its working on its battery. A true UPS as used in large data centers takes the utility power converts it to direct current and then back to pure alternating current. The batteries would then immediately take over and make the pure AC on utility power failure. So feeding square sine waves from a portable generator get passed right thru the $150 "UPSs.
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This is critical to those wishing to have backup power, and NOT JUST SHUTDOWN power. These two needs are not sufficiently separated in most discussions of "backup power" for pellet stoves. If you just want enough power to shut down the stove, and either have a stove that senses loss of grid power and automatically shuts down OR can delude yourself into thinking someone will always be home when the power goes out and can start the shutdown within about two minutes of losing power, then these cheap units are probably fine.

But if you need to actually run the stove on battery backup, AND recharge the battery(ies) via the generator, you need to do a lot more planning, learn about your stove's power needs (including both ignitor current draw and normal runtime current draw), understand the UPS' ability to sustain a load for many hours (many will not), and understand the UPS' ability to recharge its batteries via the generator (many cannot).

People think these little UPS's are such great deals. In reality, they are seldom good for anything but shutting down the stove, and leaving it off until the power is back on. If that's all you need, and you feel confident you won't have smoke damage (or at least smell) in your house because the power went out when no one was home to shut down the stove (and you don't have great natural draft), then by all means buy a small, cheap unit. For anything else, for heavens sake plan ahead and test your plan well before you actually need it.
 
I purchased one of these units about 4 or 5 years ago. My main use is to prevent the stove from shutting down in the middle of the night during those 5-10 second outages that seem to happen fairly often. It has been perfect for these situations. During a 3-day power outage, I disconnected it from the stove (during the summer) and used it to power various devices around the house. Again worked perfectly. From my experience, the battery lasts long enough to provide about 10-15 minutes of power when our Englader is in normal running mode.

It's not a fix all, but it certainly has it's uses
 
I have a TripLite 1500W data center line conditioner, then my UPS hooked to the stove. I don't have the model in front of me but it specifically cleans up the sine wave by AC to DC to AC conversion and also maintains voltage output at 120V within it's operating range (90V-140V input). It doesn't do the double conversion all the time, only when it detects dirty power which significantly extends the life of the unit. I tested it with my generator and once I plugged it in, the relays clicked and the yellow "sine wave condition" light came on indicating it was then cleaning up the power. It's was about $300, but big enough to handle the stove and my A/V equipment.

I have a winter project to move the UPS and line conditioner into the basement below the pellet stove/living room to get the equipment out of sight. This will allow me to install a generator outlet that's connected to the inlet i put on the outside of the house.
 
Correction...I just looked at my UPS display...my Ecoteck draws about 70W, and peaks at 100W for 2 or 3 seconds when the auger turns on.
 
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