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eernest4
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Most any stove opperated with the door open will pour smoke out into the room unelse you have tons killer draft. & that much draft will pull in more cold air from under the door & window sills, than the heat you get from a stove without a door. Try instead to fix or replace the door.
Why would you want to do that any ways???????
Stoves run 65 % to 85 % heating efficiency & fireplaces only give 10 % heating efficieniency
at best, & often give negative efficency, pulling in more cold air from outside than the heat they create.
Why would you want to do that any ways???????
Stoves run 65 % to 85 % heating efficiency & fireplaces only give 10 % heating efficieniency
at best, & often give negative efficency, pulling in more cold air from outside than the heat they create.
Well, my previous stoves had the option of an open fire and the wife liked it. Need I say more. Actually we like the sound of the wood crackle and the smell of the file and as far as I know that is the only way to achieve that.
Here ya go. Cheers.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/429797/better_fireplace/
J/K
. Actually, Jotul makes a screen for the Castine. If you have a top exit stove and good draft, it should work ok.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/429797/better_fireplace/
J/K
. Actually, Jotul makes a screen for the Castine. If you have a top exit stove and good draft, it should work ok.
eernest4
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Dear daleZ,
Well, I guess I just learned about a new thing; I didn't have a clue about open door stoves. I though it was something dangerious & inefficient.
I see from your signature that you have a drolet 2000 , which is one of the epa stoves I was looking at to buy.
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As a owner, how do you like it?
Will it heat 2,700 sq ft or is the mfg claim way out there?
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I have 900 sq ft basement where stove will go & a 900 sq ft first floor living area
& a 900 sq ft second floor which is 1 tv/computer room & 1 occasional office & assorted cold storage areas.
So, while I'd like to warm the second floor,its not really necessary. But warming the first floor is imperative. Convection flow is good up & down both stairways, but I'm seriously thinking about cutting & installing some fan powered floor registers, some time this summer.
I'm staying with what I have for the winter, but come spring, lots of things will be a changing.
Well, I guess I just learned about a new thing; I didn't have a clue about open door stoves. I though it was something dangerious & inefficient.
I see from your signature that you have a drolet 2000 , which is one of the epa stoves I was looking at to buy.
***********************************************************************
As a owner, how do you like it?
Will it heat 2,700 sq ft or is the mfg claim way out there?
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I have 900 sq ft basement where stove will go & a 900 sq ft first floor living area
& a 900 sq ft second floor which is 1 tv/computer room & 1 occasional office & assorted cold storage areas.
So, while I'd like to warm the second floor,its not really necessary. But warming the first floor is imperative. Convection flow is good up & down both stairways, but I'm seriously thinking about cutting & installing some fan powered floor registers, some time this summer.
I'm staying with what I have for the winter, but come spring, lots of things will be a changing.
JimWalshin845
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eernest4 said:
Ummm.... Ya know it's sort nice to cozy up once in a while. As DaleZ states nice to hear the crackle and see a relatively unobstructed view.
Drolet is one heck of a woodeater but it does throw the heat. I live in an open floorplan log cabin with cathedral ceilings and it heats everything except the back bedrooms. This is about 1800 sq. foot. Besides the amount of wood it burns to get the BTU's and a occasional rattle from the blower the stove is great. Bought mine at Northern Tool.
Ceiling fan on high in reverse and the blower going. It's currently 36 degrees and if I wanted to I could heat us out of the house. We like the back rooms cool if that's why you ask, so we don't go out of the way to transfer the heat to them.
Dale
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eernest4
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Thanks for the heads up on the drolet 2000 . Northerntools.com was where I was thinking of buying it from too. Do you remember how much they hit you up for shipping & did you have to assemble all the firebrick & secondary air tubes yourself. Was it a pretty straight forward
job , not hard to do or a serious pita.
eats wood but throws serious heat. It does a 8 hr overnight burn? or longer?
The stove i am burning now heats 2700 sq ft & eats 2/3 to 3/4 cord a week with its 12 cubic feet firebox & so I am looking for a stove that will give me the same haet using less wood.
job , not hard to do or a serious pita.
eats wood but throws serious heat. It does a 8 hr overnight burn? or longer?
The stove i am burning now heats 2700 sq ft & eats 2/3 to 3/4 cord a week with its 12 cubic feet firebox & so I am looking for a stove that will give me the same haet using less wood.
eernest4 said:
eernest4,
I know it is a little smaller than you are looking for but Lowes in Manchester has the Englander 30nc for $899 minus ten percent. Not a bad deal for $800. However it is the end of the heating season for them and the 10% will be increased shortly. The person I spoke with said it would happen rite around new years.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=268086-76845-50-SNC30LC&lpage=none
James
caretaker
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Dale , do what I do, spark up the Chiminea, and let the little women sit outside, you are doing about the same thing with the doors open, burn baby burn
JimWalshin845
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This shuold take care of the crackle...
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200339125_200339125
I can't get overnight burns but I don't burn the best of wood either. A mix of hardwood. I get maybe 5 hours max before it is down to coals but is is kinda hard to stuff full. Stove came assembled except for some trim on the pedestal base. $170.00 for shipping. Got $50.00 refunded when it went on sale 2 weeks after I bought it.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200339125_200339125
I can't get overnight burns but I don't burn the best of wood either. A mix of hardwood. I get maybe 5 hours max before it is down to coals but is is kinda hard to stuff full. Stove came assembled except for some trim on the pedestal base. $170.00 for shipping. Got $50.00 refunded when it went on sale 2 weeks after I bought it.
The F400 has a smallish firebox. It does take practice to get long burns out of it. I can get about 6-7 hrs with good wood, packed tightly. But that means after 6-7 hrs. a stove at about 200 degrees and enough coals to easily get the next fire started. Normal for me with our softwood is only about 4 hrs at over 300 degrees on the stove top. The trick is not to let it get any cooler.
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