Got tired of smoke in the house

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westkywood

Feeling the Heat
Oct 14, 2009
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I had a PE Super 27 for 5 years. I got a PE Summit last spring ( both pedestals). My Super 27 was a smaller firebox of course and I never had smoke come out the door when refueling. I always had excellent draw. When I installed my Summit, I raised the stove off the floor 1 foot so I lost that much pipe. In addition the firebox is bigger so it requires more draw. I added another 2 feet of Class A pipe to the chimney which helped, but on milder days, I still get a little smoke in the house when reloading. I HATE any smoke in my house. I've been spoiled by 5 years of not having to worry about it. People would come over and say" I would have never known you had a wood stove going". No smell outside or inside.
Soooo, I came up with a very high tech solution. I got a board, screwed a smaller piece of wood to it, then screwed metal on one side ( the metal is the high tech part). When I open the door to reload, I slide the wood in front of the door (covers about half the open space)thus reducing the amount of open area and I get virtually no smoke in the house. It's really not even an inconvenience using it. I can load the stove easily with it there.
Don't anyone even attempt to duplicate my invention. It's just too complicated.
Edit: I set the "invention" there while the stove was going only for picture purposes. I don't reload the stove until the coals have burned down.
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That shouldn't be spilling smoke. Did the rear air intake port knockout get removed when the stove was installed?
 
begreen said:
That shouldn't be spilling smoke. Did the rear air intake port knockout get removed when the stove was installed?
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I have it hooked to an OAK through the back. I don't get much smoke and on really cold nights I may not get any, but it doesn't take much to make the house smell like smoke.
 
westkywood said:
I only have it there long enough to load. The wood doesn't even have time to get hot.
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But how hot does the metal get? It is a bad idea i am sorry. It should be all metal
 
bholler said:
But how hot does the metal get? It is a bad idea i am sorry. It should be all metal[/Q
I have to respectfully disagree. It's only there for a minute. Of course the metal gets hot, but metal doesnt burn. Wood does and the back of it doesn't even get hot in that amount of time. The fire is down to coals anyway by the time I have to use it. The stove is going good in the picture but I put it there at that time just to take a picture. I've used it for a week with zero problems.
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Well if it has been a week there is no way anything could possibly happen.
 
bholler said:
Well if it has been a week there is no way anything could possibly happen.
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So I'm curious as to what you think will happen? I never walk away from my stove while reloading. Is it going to just burst into flames? What scenario do you see playing out?
 
My question is:
Are you reloading your stove while you still have THAT much burning wood STILL in it?
 
CenterTree said:
My question is:
Are you reloading your stove while you still have THAT much burning wood STILL in it?
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No.I wait until it's burned down to just a bed of coals. My mistake for taking the picture while the stove was blazing. Read my response to Bholler. I set it there at that time only to take the picture.
 
westkywood said:
No.I wait until it's burned down to just a bed of coals. My mistake for taking the picture while the stove was blazing. Read my response to Bholler. I set it there at that time only to take the picture.
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OK, I see it now (your response). I skipped that reply because that posting looked like a blank reply or mis-post the way it is laid out with the quote and such....carry on.:)
 
westkywood said:
Is it going to just burst into flames? What scenario do you see playing out?
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It gets hot enough to be smouldering behind the metal and at some point after you put it down it ignites. It wont happen till the wood behind that metal is pyrolized. But it absolutely can happen at the temps you are exposing that to. It is dangerous.
 
Very odd. I have buddy with a Summit that has a flue setup and short chimney that should spill smoke badly and it doesn't. Can you describe the flue system on this stove in detail?
 
westkywood said:
So I'm curious as to what you think will happen? I never walk away from my stove while reloading. Is it going to just burst into flames? What scenario do you see playing out?
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I have burned lots of OSB. That stuff bursts into fire.

What I see happening is that it bursts into flames when in the position shown on your photo on the stove. Since your stove is full of wood and since the board is big, you can't stuff it into the stove so instead you run through your house with that ball of fire and throw it into the front yard knocking out a little girl that was walking up to your front door to sell you girl scout cookies.

I never even thought about the potential for it to slowly catch fire when you're in bed.
 
begreen said:
Very odd. I have buddy with a Summit that has a flue setup and short chimney that should spill smoke badly and it doesn't. Can you describe the flue system on this stove in detail?
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I had a Super 27 that never spilled smoke into the room and that was with 2 feet less Class A pipe. The flu goes straight up about 14 ft. I've got the stove hooked to an Oak. When I say smoke comes into the room,it's very little and I have to open the door all the way for it to happen. It's not much but I don't like even a puff of smoke in my house. If I stir the coals or move things around and the fire is still good and hot, I dont need "the board". I just open the door half way. It's only when reloading with a full load and at that time the stove isn't real hot because the coals are burned down. Thats why I'm not concerned about this thing catching fire. It's just not there long. When I do get smoke, it comes from the side where the hinges are.
Anyone have suggestions on what I can check, I'd appreciate it.
Most people probably wouldn't worry about the little smoke I get..
 
The Summit has a larger door. I would try opening the air then waiting 10 seconds, then opening the door more slowly.
 
begreen said:
The Summit has a larger door. I would try opening the air then waiting 10 seconds, then opening the door more slowly.
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I do that. Always have..Like I say. It's not much smoke and a lot of people would probably find it acceptable..I'm use to no smoke at all.
 
This is a damn good idea and I'm going to give it a shot. However i would use regular plywood. No matter when reloading I usually get some smoke. For the record I'm with you I dont want any smoke smell in the house either.
 
bholler said:
It gets hot enough to be smouldering behind the metal and at some point after you put it down it ignites. It wont happen till the wood behind that metal is pyrolized. But it absolutely can happen at the temps you are exposing that to. It is dangerous.
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I appreciate your concern. Thats what these message boards are for. I promise you ( I swear on a stack of wood ), that if anything happens no matter how small, I will post it on here with pictures and take my beating.
 
westkywood said:
I appreciate your concern. Thats what these message boards are for. I promise you ( I swear on a stack of wood ), that if anything happens no matter how small, I will post it on here with pictures and take my beating.
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Well good as long as it doesn't burn your house down in the process
 
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