chimney install

vasten · Mar 1, 2016

To clarify you have two flues, therefore you have two chimneys already. One for gas appliances and one for other use.

Kosmonauts said:
Also today I was really thinking pretty hard about my existing chimney and pre existing flue for my gas furnace because now I have a direct vent furnace and the old flue is capped. However, I do believe that the hot water tank is running into the T that used to be the flue for the old gas furnace. So the tank and furnace both went into this T and up into the same flue. Because while I was on my roof looking down my fireplace chimney, I noticed that I have two flues comming out of my chimney but only one is for the fireplace. Perhaps someone in this thread could shed some light on this one???

First question is do you use the fire place and want more heat out of it than what you are getting??
Second question why the basement?

If you don't use the fireplace and/or you want to provide greater heat than what a fireplace provides. I would suggest closing the fireplace off, easy DIY project and attaching a thimble into the masonry chimney, and vent a wood stove out that chimney. Extend your hearth pad out easy DIY project to accommodate a stove. And done for a fraction of the cost and headache of putting it in the basement.

vasten · Mar 1, 2016

To clarify you have two flues, therefore you have two chimneys already. One for gas appliances and one for other use.

Kosmonauts said:
Also today I was really thinking pretty hard about my existing chimney and pre existing flue for my gas furnace because now I have a direct vent furnace and the old flue is capped. However, I do believe that the hot water tank is running into the T that used to be the flue for the old gas furnace. So the tank and furnace both went into this T and up into the same flue. Because while I was on my roof looking down my fireplace chimney, I noticed that I have two flues comming out of my chimney but only one is for the fireplace. Perhaps someone in this thread could shed some light on this one???

First question is do you use the fire place and want more heat out of it than what you are getting??
Second question why the basement?

If you don't use the fireplace and/or you want to provide greater heat than what a fireplace provides. I would suggest closing the fireplace off, easy DIY project and attaching a thimble into the masonry chimney, and vent a wood stove out that chimney. Extend your hearth pad out easy DIY project to accommodate a stove. And done for a fraction of the cost and headache of putting it in the basement.

Kosmonauts · Mar 1, 2016

vasten said:
To clarify you have two flues, therefore you have two chimneys already. One for gas appliances and one for other use.
That's a great idea!! Yes I do use the fireplace and would love more heat from it but that wouldn't fix a lot of my issues unfortunately... My main problem is my basement gets freezing! I have also been considering putting a pellet stove in the basement, the chimney still needs to go out, but not all the way up...

First question is do you use the fire place and want more heat out of it than what you are getting??
Second question why the basement?

If you don't use the fireplace and/or you want to provide greater heat than what a fireplace provides. I would suggest closing the fireplace off, easy DIY project and attaching a thimble into the masonry chimney, and vent a wood stove out that chimney. Extend your hearth pad out easy DIY project to accommodate a stove. And done for a fraction of the cost and headache of putting it in the basement.

Kosmonauts · Mar 1, 2016

vasten said:
To clarify you have two flues, therefore you have two chimneys already. One for gas appliances and one for other use.

First question is do you use the fire place and want more heat out of it than what you are getting??
Second question why the basement?

If you don't use the fireplace and/or you want to provide greater heat than what a fireplace provides. I would suggest closing the fireplace off, easy DIY project and attaching a thimble into the masonry chimney, and vent a wood stove out that chimney. Extend your hearth pad out easy DIY project to accommodate a stove. And done for a fraction of the cost and headache of putting it in the basement.

That's a great idea!! Yes I do use the fireplace and would love more heat from it but that wouldn't fix a lot of my issues unfortunately... My main problem is my basement gets freezing! I have also been considering putting a pellet stove in the basement, the chimney still needs to go out, but not all the way up...

St. Coemgen · Mar 4, 2016

vasten said:
You could do the best of both worlds in a sense. Call in a few professionals to give you a free quote and see what their plans to do the job would be. There could be factors in your set up that a professional may see that you don't, such as clearances between finish grade height where the pipe comes out and floor joists sill plates etc.

Then once you have all that knowledge you can asses your own comfort level in taking on the job yourself.

As a professional, I learned a long time ago that some potential clients just wanted to call me down to fully pick my brain so they could "DIY" based on my "free" advise.

And I long ago learned to usually recognize who is calling me in only to play such cheap mind games thinking my advise is free, time is valueless and I run a charity not a business. To those I only tell half of what I know. The other half only comes with a signed contract.

Then I wait.

Not uncommonly they call me up later to fix their mistakes. Mistakes made by not knowing the half I did not tell them. Of course, then it costs more to clean up the mess. Don't play games with a professional's time. Their time is money to them. And they know how to slam dunk you if you waste it.

P.S. Wood heating is my passion, not my profession (so my advise here is free.

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bholler · Mar 4, 2016

3650 said:
My experience with paying people to do something is more often then not they do it wrong. This is why I do everything myself. Why pay someone to do it wrong when I can do that myself. Besides there is so much educational reference on the internet a guy can do just about anything. YouTube is a fantastic instructional tool.

Well you are not hiring the right people then. And there is allot of really bad advice to be found on the internet be careful who you listen to.

I have absolutly no problem with people doing the work themselves and i will gladly spend some time giving them advice if they tell me that is what they are looking for. In that case i simply charge them a consultation fee usually $75 or so and tell them what ever they want. But unless they say that i will tell them what I think needs to be done but no specifics on how to do it.

Squisher · Mar 4, 2016

Yup. There's a fine line between an estimate and a consultation. Always best to be upfront with your intentions.

vasten · Mar 5, 2016

I think that was my point call in a professional because it sounds like there is a lot going in here, going through a cement wall, changing exterior grade etc... If he called in a quality professional he could hear what they had to say and determine if what they were saying was worth taking on a DIY project. He could state his intentions of doing it as a DIY to them and see how it goes.

Sometimes when you have additional factors like a basement penetration changing exterior grade and notching or accounting for roof over hang it is often hard to give specific advise as we cant see what his set up is. So getting a few eyes on the intended project would give him a better idea of the potential challenges he faced. then he could make a better determination if it was with in his comfort level.

No offense to any professionals out there.

bholler · Mar 5, 2016

vasten said:
No offense to any professionals out there.

none taken as long as some one is open about their intentions i have absolutely no issue with giving info at all

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