Approximately just as cheap to run the chevy volt on gas as electricity

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OK - but that's still only $1739/year revenue. Which would be a 6+ year payback.

I ran some quick numbers for my situation where I'm at a couple years ago, and concluded there would be a 20 year +/- payback. We don't have much for incentives though, and no SREC or buyback arrangement.
 
OK - but that's still only $1739/year revenue. Which would be a 6+ year payback.

I ran some quick numbers for my situation where I'm at a couple years ago, and concluded there would be a 20 year +/- payback. We don't have much for incentives though, and no SREC or buyback arrangement.

Not here in Ma. The net metering, state and federal incentives, state rebates, and SREC payments make a big difference

Here are the detailed numbers from the vendor for a 10 panel system, without inflation.. Looking at the details he had electricity a bit high (.28 / kwh, it's more like 0.25 in the winter and 0.15 in the summer)... but he also has SREC a little low ( he had $285 , the most recent ones have sold for $439). The solar energy production numbers are the most accurate. The initial cost was actually a little lower. I got an additional rebate/watt installed because my house assessment is less than the median for the county

From the vendor...


PV Material Details:
Solar Panel Manufacturer Solar World
Solar Panel Model SW 250
Total Number of Solar Panels 10
Total Solar Panel Wattage (STC) 2,500
Inverter Model Enphase

System Cost Details:
Total System Cost Without Rebate $11,450
Minus Rebate $2,000
Final Cost to You $9,450
Rebate Percentage of Total System Cost 17.5%
Amount Of Federal & State Tax Credit $3,835
Final Cost (after Federal Tax Credit of 30%, State Tax
Credit and MassCEC Rebate) $5,615
Total Estimated Yearly Solar Kilowatt Hours Produced 3,053

First Year Estimated Electricity Cost Savings in Dollars $870
Estimated S-REC Income $870
Profit Generated After 10 Years $7,803
Estimated Payback Year 4
Estimated Yearly ROI 24%
 
Someday is now, though not cheap.
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Im seeing 2012 -2013 mint condition volts for sale locally for around $15000. If i had the slightest use for a small sedan id grab one today.
Im thinking of grabbing one out of sheer curiosity and the super low price.
I hope someday these bargain prices will come in the form of a pickup or SUV/Van style which are the only 2 types of vehicles i have any use for.
 
The cars come new for about 31 to 33 k.. After the 10k rebate (7.5 fed 2.5 state) thats about 21 to 23 k off the lot.. so an older one could depreciate 6 to 8 k in a couple of years... The 2nd gen goes farther on electricity (54 mile) and gets better gas mileage (40 mpg) than gen 1
 
I think it's more like 33K to 40K for the Volt. No state rebate here. 2nd gen has many nice improvements in addition to the increase range.
 
Just bougt one new , low end, no dodads, for 31 k in November (21 k with state and fed rebate).... GM had about 2k in incentives

One key was to get supplier price...offered to GM employes,..but also through Costco auto to all with a Costco card in the winter holiday season.That and Costco gives you a $700 card for using their service.

The GM bonuses stack on top of the Costco supplier price

If you go high end,and load up on the toys, and ignore the available discounts and bonuses, you can push up the price to the range you mention
 
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