Finally BK Princess insert owner

Gravedigger · Apr 9, 2016

I've been a member here since 1/1/2013 and decided I wanted a Blaze King Princess insert but did not want to buy new. I finally found & purchased a used one. The 70's buck stove insert is finally going out the door and will be picking up the stove next week! I don't think I'll miss the wood eating smoke dragon.

Next project is installing chimney liner, blockoff plate and insulating chimney with perlite.

begreen · Apr 9, 2016

Congratulations. take pics. Why perlite in the chimney instead of insulated liner?

webby3650 · Apr 9, 2016

Gravedigger said:
I've been a member here since 1/1/2013 and decided I wanted a Blaze King Princess insert but did not want to buy new. I finally found & purchased a used one. The 70's buck stove insert is finally going out the door and will be picking up the stove next week! I don't think I'll miss the wood eating smoke dragon.

Next project is installing chimney liner, blockoff plate and insulating chimney with perlite.

Sweet! It's not real easy to find a used one.
Do yourself a favor, skip the poured in insulation. Get an insulation wrap kit from the same company that makes the liner. It's a breeze to install and remove if ever necessary.

kinetic711 · Apr 9, 2016

Good for you! I just picked up a BK Princess insert that had seen very little use. I was looking for a used PE Summit, because used BK's just never turn up. This one kind of fell in my lap. It was 1100 miles away, but I was able to organize reasonable shipping, and I got it, all in, for about 25% of new!
Now I just have to wait for the heating season to end, so I can pull the old insert and install the Princess.

Gravedigger · Apr 9, 2016

webby3650 said:
Sweet! It's not real easy to find a used one.
Do yourself a favor, skip the poured in insulation. Get an insulation wrap kit from the same company that makes the liner. It's a breeze to install and remove if ever necessary.

I'm thinking it will be cheaper to do the pour in insulation.

Gravedigger · Apr 9, 2016

kinetic711 said:
Good for you! I just picked up a BK Princess insert that had seen very little use. I was looking for a used PE Summit, because used BK's just never turn up. This one kind of fell in my lap. It was 1100 miles away, but I was able to organize reasonable shipping, and I got it, all in, for about 25% of new!
Now I just have to wait for the heating season to end, so I can pull the old insert and install the Princess.

I wasn't as lucky on the price but feel I got a good deal at $1700. I'm 600 miles away and picking it up myself.

Gravedigger · Apr 14, 2016

Road trip starts today to pick stove up!

Leaving at noon today and should be home by 5pm tomorrow with over 1200 miles on the odometer.

Gravedigger · Apr 16, 2016

Just painted

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begreen · Apr 16, 2016

Looks great!

kinetic711 · Apr 16, 2016

Congratulations! I just finished replacing the door glass and gasket on my new-to-me Princess, it got cracked in shipping. Oh well, so now the door gasket is new also, and I even replaced the bypass door gasket. Make sure to look at it because mine was really flattened and not doing to much. Really easy to do before the insert is installed. I even ordered a new combustor, just to have a backup.

bholler · Apr 16, 2016

I would not recommend pour in insulation on an insert it is hard to get it sealed well enough. But if you are going to do pour in you need to use a listed chimney insulation. Straight perlite is not listed or approved. It will settle over time and it will be impossible to seal off right you will constantly be having perlite filter down little by little. Just wrap it and be done with it.

Gravedigger · Apr 16, 2016

kinetic711 said:
Congratulations! I just finished replacing the door glass and gasket on my new-to-me Princess, it got cracked in shipping. Oh well, so now the door gasket is new also, and I even replaced the bypass door gasket. Make sure to look at it because mine was really flattened and not doing to much. Really easy to do before the insert is installed. I even ordered a new combustor, just to have a backup.

How much trouble was the bypass gasket to replace?

It looks like there are new gaskets on the door and glass, white gaskets and no discoloration. The cat has one season on it ands the stove is a 2010.

Gravedigger · Apr 16, 2016

bholler said:
I would not recommend pour in insulation on an insert it is hard to get it sealed well enough. But if you are going to do pour in you need to use a listed chimney insulation. Straight perlite is not listed or approved. It will settle over time and it will be impossible to seal off right you will constantly be having perlite filter down little by little. Just wrap it and be done with it.

I've been talked out of perlite by local Blaze King dealer. Maybe do a pour in insulating mix in or just wrap the liner.

kinetic711 · Apr 16, 2016

Gravedigger said:
How much trouble was the bypass gasket to replace?
It looks like there are new gaskets on the door and glass, white gaskets and no discoloration. The cat has one season on it ands the stove is a 2010.

The bypass door gasket was pretty easy to replace. I worked through the flue opening. I opened the bypass, and used a short slot screwdriver to pry up the old gasket. Once it was out, I used a small wire wheel on a rotary tool to clean up the 5/8 channel. New bead of Thermoseal 1000SF and pressed in the new 5/8 dense gasket. I was told to leave the bypass open until the Thermoseal sets.
Oh, one more thing, my insert is a 2009.

begreen · Apr 16, 2016

Gravedigger said:
I've been talked out of perlite by local Blaze King dealer. Maybe do a pour in insulating mix in or just wrap the liner.

I'd wrap it.

bholler · Apr 16, 2016

begreen said:
I'd wrap it.

me too we do pour in allot but almost never for an insert

Gravedigger · Apr 17, 2016

Sitting in it's new home waiting on chimney liner.

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begreen · Apr 17, 2016

Getting close now. Be sure the chimney is completely cleaned (including damper area and smokeshelf) before the liner is installed.

Gravedigger · Apr 17, 2016

begreen said:
Getting close now. Be sure the chimney is completely cleaned (including damper area and smokeshelf) before the liner is installed.

Why? How clean?

I just vacuumed the smoke shelf walls and damper area scraping walls with shop vac crevice nozzle.

begreen · Apr 17, 2016

Thoroughly clean. Residual creosote is combustible. A chimney fire between the liner and the chimney walls is very unsafe and hard to put out.

lml999 · Apr 26, 2016

Looks like you've got about 6-8" of non-combustible in front of your stove, then carpet below.

I think you want at least 18" of non-combustible...

You might be able to kill two birds with one stone here...in another thread you ask about getting rid of the gap above the stove...

When we installed our insert, we had to extend the stone in front of the stove as well, We had tile level with the floor...so we got two pieces of 2" stone cut to size, one inside the fireplace for the stove to sit on, and the second under and in front of the stove to provide the 18" coverage.

You could enlarge your stone pad -- build it up 2 inches and out 12 (or whatever you need).

Just a thought...

Gravedigger · May 1, 2016

lml999 said:
Looks like you've got about 6-8" of non-combustible in front of your stove, then carpet below.

I think you want at least 18" of non-combustible...

You might be able to kill two birds with one stone here...in another thread you ask about getting rid of the gap above the stove...

When we installed our insert, we had to extend the stone in front of the stove as well, We had tile level with the floor...so we got two pieces of 2" stone cut to size, one inside the fireplace for the stove to sit on, and the second under and in front of the stove to provide the 18" coverage.

You could enlarge your stone pad -- build it up 2 inches and out 12 (or whatever you need).

Just a thought...

Adding tile in front of stove on the floor, just waiting on the wife to decide which tile she wants.

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