ceiling protection? ideas? (pictures)

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

wrapping up my through the wall install. Just about done and everything is in great shape and turned out wonderful and I am very confident the inspection will go well. However, I want to address the ceiling above where my thimble is and where the pipe is going in. It is a drop ceiling and I'm sure that this could easily be taken care of and look good as well. Behind the stove I am going to build a stone hearth, mostly so it looks nice. I actually have an extra stove board and was thinking perhaps drop it from the ceiling like how the drop panels are. I am mainly posting for some ideas or suggestions so guys please don't hesitate to let me know what you think! attaching pictures. Mind the mess around the wall I'm still cleaning up the mess from the contractor that robbed me blind! thanks guys!

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

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georgepds · May 9, 2016

Simple solution.. use metal panels in place of the pressed wood ones for ceiling tiles. You can get them in patters at home depot

begreen · May 9, 2016

This is single-wall pipe, correct? If so, it needs to be at least 18" from any and all combustibles. How close is it to the floor joist? How close is it to the ceiling grid?

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

begreen said:
This is single-wall pipe, correct? If so, it needs to be at least 18" from any and all combustibles. How close is it to the floor joist? How close is it to the ceiling grid?

The joist is about 17" I do have a heat shield for the top piece the joist is well over 18"

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

georgepds said:
Simple solution.. use metal panels in place of the pressed wood ones for ceiling tiles. You can get them in patters at home depot

Ah brilliant why didn't I think of that?!?!

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

begreen said:
This is single-wall pipe, correct? If so, it needs to be at least 18" from any and all combustibles. How close is it to the floor joist? How close is it to the ceiling grid?

I may end up using double wall anyways...but I haven't seen pieces as small as I need and it doesn't seem as easy to cut and manipulate....however I could move the stove forward some and almost 45 it with a telescoping double wall

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

I will honestly do whatever is best I have all summer, but no one to really share ideas with

begreen · May 9, 2016

You may be ok with single-wall. Using metal in the grid is a good suggestion. Normally one does not cut double-wall. Instead use a telescoping section to fit.

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

begreen said:
You may be ok with single-wall. Using metal in the grid is a good suggestion. Normally one does not cut double-wall. Instead use a telescoping section to fit.

Right ok thanks man. Yea that piece is very small up there and don't think they make the telescoping ones that small. I can definetely protect the ceiling and add heat shield to pipe for extra care. I didn't have time to measure and prepare all materials because I actually hired someone and he stole my chainsaw so needless to say the project was left with just a hole in the wall so I had to pick it up...

Seasoned Oak · May 9, 2016

You can also cut a piece of drywall for that grid ,i fastened cement board under the floor joists above my basement install ,allowing a small gap between the cement board and the floor joist. The joist were running between 100 and 110 before i covered em. That not too high but id rather be safe.

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

Seasoned Oak said:
You can also cut a piece of drywall for that grid ,i fastened cement board under the floor joists above my basement install ,allowing a small gap between the cement board and the floor joist. The joist were running between 100 and 110 before i covered em. That not too high but id rather be safe.

That's kind of what I was thinking earlier I see...great idea! Thanks a ton

Seasoned Oak · May 9, 2016

Kosmonauts said:
That's kind of what I was thinking earlier I see...great idea! Thanks a ton

5/8 is considered fire proof or fire resistant but its kind of heavy, 1/2 " should be fine.
You can also fashion a shield out of a spare piece of stove pipe and attach it over the pipe with a small gap. At least the upper half of the elbow and short piece going into the flue. that cuts down a lot of heat transfer off the pipe

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

Seasoned Oak said:
5/8 is considered fire proof or fire resistant but its kind of heavy, 1/2 " should be fine.
You can also fashion a shield out of a spare piece of stove pipe and attach it over the pipe with a small gap. At least the upper half of the elbow and short piece going into the flue. that cuts down a lot of heat transfer off the pipe

Ahh I see. I did order a heat shield for the pipe I think I'll have to cut and put over that top part there...

bholler · May 9, 2016

Seasoned Oak said:
You can also cut a piece of drywall for that grid

that will not work drywall is considered a combustible material

Seasoned Oak said:
5/8 is considered fire proof or fire resistant but its kind of heavy

No it is fire rated which means that it acts as a fire block for a set amount of time it is very different from noncombustible.

The gap for any heat shield needs to be 1" minimum.

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

bholler said:
that will not work drywall is considered a combustible material

No it is fire rated which means that it acts as a fire block for a set amount of time it is very different from noncombustible.

The gap for any heat shield needs to be 1" minimum.

Gap from the combustible surface?

bholler · May 9, 2016

Kosmonauts said:
Gap from the combustible surface?

It needs to be between the combustible surface and the pipe or stove you are shielding and at least 1" from both of them.

begreen · May 9, 2016

Aw just go double-wall and fuggetaboutit.

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

bholler said:
It needs to be between the combustible surface and the pipe or stove you are shielding and at least 1" from both of them.

Ok then thanks! Yea I'm going to use a heat shield on the pipe and figure something out with the ceiling as well I could even drop a stove board/hearth pad from the ceiling, although that may not look the best.

bholler · May 9, 2016

Kosmonauts said:
Ok then thanks! Yea I'm going to use a heat shield on the pipe and figure something out with the ceiling as well I could even drop a stove board/hearth pad from the ceiling, although that may not look the best.

You do not need both. And using both will not reduce your clearances any more

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

bholler said:
You do not need both. And using both will not reduce your clearances any more

Ok then thanks for that. I have the heat shield so I may just do that then...thanks a ton I really appreciate it

Seasoned Oak · May 9, 2016

Once you got your heat shield in place ,test the area with a temperature gun. You can get a nice one from amazon for $16 . They are very accurate and will tell you exactly whats going on. Works well for testing the pipe temp too, goes up to 900F

Kosmonauts · May 9, 2016

Seasoned Oak said:
Once you got your heat shield in place ,test the area with a temperature gun. You can get a nice one from amazon for $16 . They are very accurate and will tell you exactly whats going on. Works well for testing the pipe temp too, goes up to 900F

I do have one and was planning on doing Excactly like you say! Makes me happy to hear you say that

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