Vogelzang Boxwood VS All Nighter Little Moe

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MI Hunter

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I am new to wood burning. I am having a tiny 10x16 Amish cabin built in Northern MI Primarily for hunting and fishing. Maybe a total of 10 to 15 visits during cold part of the year. The cabin will be insulated with a total of 5 windows. The walls will be 7 ft tall going up to a peak of about 15 ft. There will be a metal roof. I already have the interior double wall black pipe wall thimble Exterior SS super vent T and cap. So this will be a through the wall installation with 65% of the run being outside. So my question is. I have a Vogelzang Standard Boxwood Stove that I have completely sealed up with Rut-land 2000 degree mortar. The pot spots & sliding top are sealed. I have managed to gasket the door & front damper so they seal shut. Please see pics. I have burned about 5 times in this outside to cure the paint and mortar. Stove on the low end is 300 degrees up to about 600 degrees full open. Seems to eat the wood pretty fast.

So recently I found a All Nighter stove for sale that I believe is the Little Moe. The owner measured the stove and said that it is 18.5 wide 23.5 tall in the front 29.5 tall in the back. The dimensions don't exactly measure up to the dimensions on the all nighter pamphlet on this site. So it is either a Little or Tiny Moe. I asked the gentleman and he said that the baffle looks to be in good shape. He said there are some cracked fire bricks inside but other than that it just needs to be sanded and repainted. What should I check for on this stove before I buy it? Would this be a safer/better stove that the boxwood? Thanks Everyone for their opinion.
 
I wouldn't spend the night in that little place (or any other place) with the Boxwood burning in it. Get the All Nighter and sleep soundly knowing you have a decent, safer, and more efficient heater there in the room with you.
 
Defiantly go with the Moe. Those boxwood stoves have the worst castings around and are nuts to control. They do have a use.

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Thanks Guys for the recommendation. I ended up picking up the Moe for $100 with a blower. Now comes the cleanup work. Does anyone happen to know what size door gasket the Little Moe took? I stripped the old one from the door today and saved a sample piece to compare. Do you just measure the width of the door channel and go with that? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
 
I'm real happy with the boxwood, and I too, had to seal everything
to feel safe. We have natural updraft and never a CO alarm and one smoke
detector alarm last winter. (I opened the door with the damper shut.)
Works good after air control is established but I still don't recommend it to
others. I think you made a great choice with the Moe and blower motor especially
at that price.
 
Thanks Guys for the recommendation. I ended up picking up the Moe for $100 with a blower. Now comes the cleanup work. Does anyone happen to know what size door gasket the Little Moe took? I stripped the old one from the door today and saved a sample piece to compare. Do you just measure the width of the door channel and go with that? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
Did you ever figure out what size? I just replaced mine on what I think is a Mid Moe (same door). I'm pretty sure I used 3/8, but it isn't tight. It will hold a dollar bill but it pulls out easily.
 
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a key to door gaskets is not stretch it out but to somewhat bunch it back together. hi temp silicone in place. let it set up a bit. then close and latch door for min. 24 hours 48 even better before firing unit
 
I used a Vogelzang boxwood for the past two years with great success as the primary heater for my 800 sq foot house (with 800 sq foot basement where it was located).


I had great updraft and no smoke in my clay flue block brick masonry chimney that was in the center of the house, I had it in an open area of the basement where it was always 4' or so from any walls on a concrete and brick base I built. Went through about three cords last winter, used a few space heaters upstairs as needed but the boxwood was great other than heavy wood consumption.

I just upgraded to a newer wood stove in trade for some tools...I actually think I preferred the simpler nice boxwood it did a great job for me. I'm planning on using it in my barn once I convert it to a workshop.
 
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