I am looking at the pacific energy line of stoves and have narrowed my choices down to the super 27 or the summit. Also with either one what do you experts think about getting the ash pan and the blowers as extras? Are they really needed and could they be added later? My wife wants the pedistal with either one. I will be putting the stove in the basement of a ranch house 1400 squ. ft. up stairs and 1400 down. that has forced air and heat pump. I can use the circ. fan to circ. the air as well as open all the vents. Currently using a Vermont castings rad. propane stove in basement, but can no longer afford the propane and with Pennsylvania deregulating electric rates in the next 2 years I won't be able to aford the electric either. Also, give me a ball park figure on prices if you can. Thanks, AJ.
Pacific energy summit vs. super 27
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Paproud,
I have the PE Vista..now I didn't get the blower because I did read a lot about wood stove fans/blowers and my personal opinion was that they weren't worth the money...however...I did get my model with the ash pan..definitely worth it!!
I have the PE Vista..now I didn't get the blower because I did read a lot about wood stove fans/blowers and my personal opinion was that they weren't worth the money...however...I did get my model with the ash pan..definitely worth it!!
How open is the basement floor plan? How large is the area that the stove will be located in? Is there a large open stairway leading from the basement floor to the upstairs?
Also, is there currently a flue that the stove will tie into or will a new one need to be added?
Also, is there currently a flue that the stove will tie into or will a new one need to be added?
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Get the ash dump for sure.
The blower can be added later, so you could try without.
If you are relying on the stove as your sole heat source go with the summit.
Basement installs can be a real bugger...if uninsulated the concrete walls can suck up alot of heat...narrow stairwells, closed floorplans etc will only make things worse.
pricing
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pacsumm.htm
The blower can be added later, so you could try without.
If you are relying on the stove as your sole heat source go with the summit.
Basement installs can be a real bugger...if uninsulated the concrete walls can suck up alot of heat...narrow stairwells, closed floorplans etc will only make things worse.
pricing
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pacsumm.htm
I was also in the same situation as you deciding between the Super and the Summit. I have a 1500sqft ranch (new) with open floor plan. I was very concerned that if I went with the Summit it would run me out of the house because its rated for a much larger home. I was concerned that I would get buildup in the chimney due to not running it at full throttle. Well, after much discussion on these boards I did end up buying the Summit......and I'm sure glad I did! It is the perfect fit for us. We love the long overnight burns.
During the day I do damper it down to about 1/3 but ONLY after running it for 30min-1hr on high to burn up any buildup from the night before. I actually do this twice a day, in the morning and before I fill her up at night. Im actually glad we didn't go with the smaller unit. Like others said to me.......If you don't want so much heat build a smaller fire. But at least you have the option of having a BIG fire with really long burns. We've appreciated it when its been in the neg. digits.
During the day I do damper it down to about 1/3 but ONLY after running it for 30min-1hr on high to burn up any buildup from the night before. I actually do this twice a day, in the morning and before I fill her up at night. Im actually glad we didn't go with the smaller unit. Like others said to me.......If you don't want so much heat build a smaller fire. But at least you have the option of having a BIG fire with really long burns. We've appreciated it when its been in the neg. digits.
All this info. is helpful. I think that I will go with the summit, you can build small fires in it, but you can't build bigger fires in the super 27. If money allows I will get the blower and ash pan. Next question, what about the fresh air kit? My house is 8 years old and quite tight. Not a requirement here, but some people swear by them and some people swear at them. Any thoughts? As far as layout of the house when I moved in the owner had a gravity fed oil stove that heated the whole house so I don't see why the wood stove would not do it as well. The oil stove had a downdraft problem, Chimney opening too big and not enough heat generated by the stove to heat the chimney and get a good draft, no problems with the propane stove now. Thanks for all the help and the price on the chimney sweep is right on with the price quoted me. Going to have a very well qualified and recommended stove dealer check everything and do the install. With gypsy moth going to be real bad here next year I can look forward to 5 to 10 years of dead standing oak to cut.
I agree, I'd go with the Summit as well. Particularly if there is easy passage for the heat to get upstairs. For a basement installation I would add the outside air kit, especially if there are competing appliances in that area (hw heater, dryer, bath fan, etc.). You'll also need to pay close attention to the chimney. Do you know the tile liner size is for the chimney? Will this flue be dedicated to the wood stove only?
I did go for the fresh air kit. I DIDNT use one on my last pellet stove and I had issues moving the heat around. My Summit was $1550 OTD, I just have plain jane black on black ped with NO ash dump (but kinda wish I had it). Good Luck!
Is windy cold crappy, snowing and about 0 with the windchill.........my house is a cozy 75 degrees
Is windy cold crappy, snowing and about 0 with the windchill.........my house is a cozy 75 degrees
Got a firm price of $1900+taxes for the plain jane black summit with ash dump delivered to my house. Looking at $900.00 to line the chimney with stainlees pipe and setup. Dealer said that with the house layout Ishould try the stove without the fan and see how it goes as he can always put that on and he does not think that the fresh air intake is needed, but could be added as well. He feels that trying and adding as needed is better than spending money that may not be needed. Many people have dealt with him and feel that ha is ver honest and does not want to sell me what I do not need. By the way what does the air intake cost and how hard is it to install? Thanks.
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