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Hello, I'm new to this world of wood burning stove. During htis weekend my wife and I took a ride out to a place the rebuilts stoves. We want to place a stove in our chimney. I took all the dimensions to spec out the correct size. The women who sold us the stove has been in business for years and was very helpful. They rebuilt stoves from the ground up and I guess with the price of oil riseing so has the price of stoves and the repairs parts.
We ended up purchasing a Warner stove, its small enough to fit into out 26" high chimney for $895.00. Even though its been rebuilt it looks new. I search the web but I could not find any information on Warner stoves, can anyone help me out. Finally I need to know if this is a good deal or not. They place that sold us the stove had a Flexline Flex pipe reconditioned. All stainless steel, whe was going to sell for $125.00. Again I did not find a websit for flexline or even know if its a good price.

Thanks
Frank
 
I'm near the Derry side of town. We purchased a stove because the home heating oil prices are insane and my wife and I are sick of leaving the thermostat set low in the winter months to save a few bucks

Frank
 
I'm in NH too, just wondering where you got the stove?
 
LONDONDERRY said:
Hello, I'm new to this world of wood burning stove. During htis weekend my wife and I took a ride out to a place the rebuilts stoves. We want to place a stove in our chimney. I took all the dimensions to spec out the correct size. The women who sold us the stove has been in business for years and was very helpful. They rebuilt stoves from the ground up and I guess with the price of oil riseing so has the price of stoves and the repairs parts.
We ended up purchasing a Warner stove, its small enough to fit into out 26" high chimney for $895.00. Even though its been rebuilt it looks new. I search the web but I could not find any information on Warner stoves, can anyone help me out. Finally I need to know if this is a good deal or not. They place that sold us the stove had a Flexline Flex pipe reconditioned. All stainless steel, whe was going to sell for $125.00. Again I did not find a websit for flexline or even know if its a good price.

Thanks
Frank
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hi frank, that is a very high price for a warner. as i recall it is a solid cast iron double door steel body stove. pre epa standard, stove is at least 20 plus years old. sold for maybe for 350-400 dollars when new. today it should go for about 150.rehab the a warner would typically mean new firebrick and paint, about a 40 dollar outlay. sorry about no caps, one handed typing.
 
We might be talking about a different model. This stove has one door in the front with a handle on the left side I believe.
I talked to the seller and basically they said the prices to repair stoves have doubled in price in the last 2 years.
Well I just put a deposit on it, which I can get back. Do you or anyone else know of a place that rebuilt wood stoves for sale? I live in southern NH area/ MA border

Thanks
Frank
 
I'm with webwidow on this one. You could spend that $895 on a good handful of NEW units. Well, let me back step a second. Do you have the model number? Do you know the approximate date of manufacture?
 
Warner was a steel stove with heavy cast iron door - we sold them in our shop.

The retail price was from $350 to $550 depending on size - of course this is back in 1979. Heavy stove, like a Fisher.

I say that is too much money! But that is just my opinion. If they can sell the stove at that price to someone, it is obviously not too much money!

BTW, such a stove does not really need rebuilt! Maybe painted and some firebrick replaced. Sure, if the stove was new today it would probably be about $1000, but at the same time I think you can do a lot better by buying direct from a homeowner.

Example, here is a Warner listed for $275:
http://www.classifiedads.com/miscellaneous_items-ad573047.htm
 
Okay well I'll think about the purchase then thanks. I found this place of craig's list, its in Chesterfield, NH
I've been spending sometime this morning looking at some stoves on ebay, craig's list, ect. Most of the proces seem to be from $350-600. One of the biggest issues I found out is we are going to place the stove in our fireplace but the height opening is 26 inches. So the selection of stoves is narrow.
BTW I was going to buy a stainless steel flex pipe, used for $125.00 new is about $255.00 from flexline. what do you guys think?
 
Hi again, when looking for a stove please know that some stoves can either vent out the top or the rear, and a few stoves have short legs options. With short legs one has to be diligent about downward heat, but the owners manual will address that or the manufactures specification plate on rear of stove. If no manufacture clearence plate is attached and no manual then you might not be able to use it for your application (just another can of of warms with an old used stove)
 
It vents from the back and I believe the stove has a height of 24 inches and the fireplace opening is 26-1/4 inches high. So in general refurbishing a used stove is more or less gasket replacments, fire bricks and paint?
 
LONDONDERRY said:
It vents from the back and I believe the stove has a height of 24 inches and the fireplace opening is 26-1/4 inches high. So in general refurbishing a used stove is more or less gasket replacments, fire bricks and paint?
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Yes, in refurbishing a steel stove. A cast iron stove might entail new parts and a complete rebuild. Bottom line older pre EPA stoves use more wood and create more smoke(pollution) therefore they are worth less. Remember a stove is a hard working piece of equipment, time might not be kind to a stove.
 
Well there is a person in my town that is selling a Jotul 602 3 years old for $500.00. Its much cheaper in price but I've been reading up on the pros and cons about this one.
I've been told by numerous people that stoves built in the 80's where better constructed in terms of material thickness than todays models. Any truth behind this?

Here is the place I'm considering buying a wood stove from. Anyone been or heard of them

http://burlington.craigslist.org/hsh/665182315.html
 
LONDONDERRY said:
I've been told by numerous people that stoves built in the 80's where better constructed in terms of material thickness than todays models. Any truth behind this?
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Not really a true statement. In todays world you can buy a 150 pound weenie of a stove or a 650 pound cast iron monster. Its generally its a "get what you pay for" world of stoves today. There are a few stoves that have exceptional value/price (such as the englanders and a couple of others), and then there are a few that you will pay pretty hefty prices for because of name/style, etc.

As a suggestion, approach this purchase looking at the long term, most stoves are installed with the intent of "years" of use. The newer epa cert. stoves will consume much less wood than those of yesteryear, as well as doing it cleaner (smoke) and getting more btu per pound of wood back to the area that you want to heat. A couple of years of burning 6 cords instead of 3 or 4 cords WILL make a big difference to most folks.

There was a few of the old stoves of yesteryear that could have fallen out of the back of your pickup on the way home and only hurt the road, but there is quality out there in todays world as well.
 
So confusing!!!!! I appericate all the advice and realize everyone is looking out for me. I know the first step is to measure out my fireplace and from there I would find a stove that fits in. Now I'm second guessing if I should buy this stove or not. the reason I'm going with a used rebuilt one is because in most of the stove shops I've visisted, asking price was 2K or more. So I figured on a used one for under 1K would be a better deal. But now !?
 
It can be a confusing world for a stove buyer. My personal opinion is that the stove you are looking at is overpriced. It is a pre-epa, 20+ year old stove that more than likely got a new coat of paint and few new fire bricks. That doesn't make it bad.....just maybe not the best choice.

You SHOULD take into consideration the amount of wood that will be consumed. If you buy processed wood, it may make a $300-$500 difference PER YEAR (possibly more). I am not a specs guy or measurements guru, so it would be hard for me to make suggestions of specific models, but I can assure you that there is a stove out there that is probably a better fit money/function/performance wise. Lots of used models out there if new is not in the cards. You have all summer, make your choice wisely (and get your wood now).
 
Well I can get the wood for free, my step father owns land in NH and offered to give us some wood, trick is I have to cut and split it myself. I know I know its alot of work. Well I ghave the rest of the week to research and look at stove. But to be honest, looking through craig's list, ebay the price for a decent stove is about 600 or more. I can buy a $150 stove but it looks like a basket case to bring it up to working condition. FOr example I looked at a Russo stove the seller was asking 350 but all the frie bricks need to be replaced which was going to cost an additonal 300, plus it needed to be wire brushed and repainted.

Frank
 
LONDONDERRY said:
I'm near the Derry side of town. We purchased a stove because the home heating oil prices are insane and my wife and I are sick of leaving the thermostat set low in the winter months to save a few bucks

Frank
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Derry here! I saw that wood stove shop on Craigs list. I ended up buying somewhere else.

Where do people around here get their cord wood? I have been cutting free stuff on mine and my parents property but I will run out soon enough.

Good luck with your stove.
 
LONDONDERRY said:
Well I can get the wood for free, my step father owns land in NH and offered to give us some wood, trick is I have to cut and split it myself. I know I know its alot of work.

Frank
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Trust me (and my back) that making an addition 2 cords of firewood per year is no where near free. I process and burn ~5 cords per year, and if I could simply "change" something about my setup (wood burning) that cut it down to 3......almost priceless. (Or from 7 to 4.5, you get the idea). This is each and every year, over and over.
 
skinnykid said:
LONDONDERRY said:
I'm near the Derry side of town. We purchased a stove because the home heating oil prices are insane and my wife and I are sick of leaving the thermostat set low in the winter months to save a few bucks

Frank
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Derry here! I saw that wood stove shop on Craigs list. I ended up buying somewhere else.

Where do people around here get their cord wood? I have been cutting free stuff on mine and my parents property but I will run out soon enough.

Good luck with your stove.
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Where did you buy your stove from? I went to the Stove Shoppe in Windham, very nice stoves but expensive

Frank
 
I bought from the Stove Shoppe. Expensive, expensive install I think as well. However- great people, great for advice, showed up and put the stove in, and I felt confident that they did it right. I felt like the guy at the showroom listened to me and helped figure out what I really needed.

You might look at http://www.overstockstoves.com/ for deals
 
Londonderry - I think what I'm reading is that its not a bad idea to go with a used stove, it just has to be for the right price. I think the price on the one you're looking at is way high - you can get a better stove and more bang for your buck at home depot for less dough, and some others seem to agree. Also, you're going to burn a heck of a lot more wood in that one that you would in a similarly-sized new stove. So, you need to figure that into your decision as well. If you're planning on getting even 50% of your heat from a stove, you could end up saving $1,000 pretty quickly on wood costs, or the equivalent in time and supplies for splitting, in very short order - a couple years. I think it would be wise to check out new stoves and get your deposit back. With a new stove, you could accomplish the following 1) nicer looking stove, 2) longer-lasting stove, 3) get warranty work done if you have problems, 4) burn less wood = cost & time savings, 5) pollute less.
 
I'm thinking the same as well. I'll have to talk this over with my wife first and see what she has to say. One of the biggest issues is finding a stove that will fit into a 26-1/4inch high fireplace with the pipe fitting coming out the back side not the top. Thats what attracted us to the warner stove it solved the issues we had. Even the women at the store, said we have an unusually small fireplace height, and there was only 2 stoves that would meet the dimensions. I've looked at HearthStone, HeatGlo,Napolean and England and even most Jotul's they are all to high to fit into our fireplace.


With that said, do you or anyone else in NH kno a place that sells used stoves? or a stove that will fit in our fireplace?


Frank
 
Londonerry, if you can start from scratch in a new thread that describes the house you are trying to heat and the current fireplace dimensions we can be of greater help. As noted there are several stoves that are good heaters that sell for $900 or less, new. We just need to figure out what is the best fit for your situation.
 
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