State Requirements

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What,... there are laws for concealed weapons?? I just found out we're not supposed to hunt from a vehicle, with loaded guns. Who knew???? But I I think we have laws for OWB.
 
When I posted the first time I should have made myself clear, I am refering to a boiler that is place within you home.
Not OWB . Does the boiler have to be ASME stamped if so who make one?
 
Seems like you might have a couple of different levels to look. State, county, local, etc. Try looking under your state web page first. UL listing(or its =) is usually a must. Most installers can't put anything without that stamp. If you're a DIY kinda guy, sometimes you can get a away with alot more. Another one to ask is you insurance co. With this economy, they'll be looking for any reason not to pay.
That might be the first place to start. Just my .02
 
I Checked the codes and everyone is telling me it needs to be ASME STAMPED I can't find anyone who make a wood gasifier that is ASME STAMPED. Rated, built to, CSA, and Ul is not Stamped
it seems that Asme is required in many states, but the joke is that a water heater gas or oil is not ASME, and operate with pressure relief valve 100 psi more that of boiler, nor is the expansion tank and the rest of the sundries. I looking for the exception to the rule.
 
nofossil said:
No laws at all that I'm aware of, except for OWBs.

Of course, we don't have laws about concealed weapons, and you can pass in no passing zones. Wood burning appliances are pretty far down the legislative priority list.


SSSSSSSHHHHH!!!!!

The best way to keep no laws on certain things is to make sure that the people that like to have laws about ___everything___

(and the electred officials who like to campaign by pointing to the number of new laws that they helped craft and enact on a dizzying array of topics)

don't actually know, or have their attention drawn to the fact, that there are some topics that we have no laws about, even though they assumed that there must have been laws on those topics, because they'd have thought that everyone else would have already demanded laws on such topics....

Even William O. Douglas, one of the main architects of the New Deal, wrote in his autobiography that all laws should have sunset dates, and if they deserve to be re-enacted, then let them be formally re-enacted.

Instead, laws accumulate steadily like mindlessly sedimentary objects, while evolving of their own random paths, and solely for their own evolutionary glorification, like some kind of bad invasive species-- like Didymo, the "rock snot" that somehow got in our rivers from somewhere else

stay peaceful, carry your piece, and pass only in safe spots, as you contemplate how to pass on double yellow lines with wood gasified fuel, and reload for your (personal) sidearm with "localvore" smokeless powder.... and cut your own "localvore" fuel and grow/ buy your localvore food :)
 
I find it more than a bit ironic that most politicians are so eager to protect us when it's arguable that most attempts to do so actually end up hurting us in addition to taking away freedoms.

Vermont is the only state that doesn't require a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Vermont's violent crime rate is consistently one of the lowest in the country. Coincidence? Perhaps.... but perhaps not.

I wonder how many people die from fires caused by old and unsafe woodburning appliances that they couldn't afford to replace because of the costs added by regulations intended to make the replacement safer?

ASME certification is certainly a good indicator of quality, but it seems to me that the consumer ought to have the right to decide if they want to pay the premium. If ASME certification were required here, I'd probably be heating with something much less safe than the EKO.

Finally, I wonder how many additional residential deaths and / or serious injury or damage would occur if ASME certification were not required for wood boilers?

When I moved to Vermont, one of the things that attracted me was the general attitude of Yankee independence - people were generally assumed to be self-sufficient and government was small and unobtrusive. Of course, my early introduction was the Northeast Kingdom.

It's undergone quite a transition since then, I'm afraid.
 
One law that is pretty consistent from state to state is that you can't vent a wood boiler into the same flue as an oil or gas boiler.
 
nofossil said:
Vermont is the only state that doesn't require a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Vermont's violent crime rate is consistently one of the lowest in the country. Coincidence? Perhaps.... but perhaps not.

Alaska too, actually.

The leeches in Concord make us pay $10 every 4 years, here. We're working on it, though - hard for them to claim that they need the licenses to reduce crime, with you folks so close, and with the same (almost nonexistent) crime rate.

Some folks are going to challenge the law based upon Heller, I think... Heller didn't require that licenses be abolished, but it declared RKBA to be an individual right, and the NH constitution, if applied properly, does not allow licensing of individual rights. So we shall see.

Joe
 
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