Newbie with a 30-nc

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RAMA89

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Dec 22, 2008
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Midcoast, maine
O.K. Guys, get your Captain Crunch decoder ring out for this one. To say that I am "green" with a woodstove would be a cruel understatement, by this time next year I am only hoping to be promoted to "green".
I am using the Englander 30-NC for an open floor plan two story 2200 sq foot home, and it heats it fine, no problems there. I am having an issue with what seems to me to be excess amount of coals and a stove that very SELDOM reaches temps in the 400's. Here are my stats as the best I can describe them.
The wood in mostly hardwood that was cut, split and stacked by July of this year. The wood was delivered tree length that was cut approx one month prior to this.
During the past few days I was having problems with not having enough draft as everytime I opened the door it was puffing back into the downstairs( the stove is in the downstairs of the home finshed daylight basement.
I read on this site about the possibilites of the chimney cap being blocked with creosote, and whala, it was packed pretty good. It was a real greasy texture but cleaned off nicely, stove drafts well now.

It seems that I have to clean the stove out almost twice a day and I cannot for the life of me get the stove near the 400-500 degree mark, I am using the standard magnetic thermometer on the pipe about7 inches from the top of the stove. The pipe goes up about 2 feet then a horizontal run of about 4 feet ( slightly elevated)through the thimble to another 90 degree elbow then straight up with Simpsons Duravent triple wall insulated pipe approx 21 feet up the side of the house.
It seems as though I have to run the stove about 60-75% open at all times to get much heat out of it. You guys that can get 500 temps for 4-7 hours are blessed. I can get temps of about 350 for two hours.

Some of my thoughts are with the wood, meaning not dry enough. I experimented with some very well seasoned hardwood with some success, not long burn times though.
Is it possible I have over draft? I have never had temps at or above the 500 mark. So, am I measuring at the wrong place?
Most of my friends are perplexed that I do not have a damper...not good at explaining why I am not.

I know that lots of questions will be asked, hope I have all the answers.
 
I can tell a big temperature difference between 1 year old wood and 2 year old wood.

Wood that is only seasoned for 6 months will not burn hot.
 
Another vote for poor wood quality
 
Yeah, that's what I dealt with last season until a buddy of mine hooked me up with some good dry wood.

It is possible that it is a combination of wood that isn't quite ready yet and weak draft.

Does your chimney meet the proper requirements? (At least three feet above where it penetrates the roof, and two feet higher than any roof surface within 10 feet in any direction)

If you have bathroom fans or a clothes drying running, that can also affect draft by creating a negative pressure situation in the house.

The temps you are seeing are not hot enough for the 30 to burn properly. As I type this, my 30 is running at about 650 degrees on the stove top, a couple inches in front of the flue collar. It probably peaked slightly higher than that and is coming back down to 550-600 where it will cruise until it starts to reach the coaling stage.

You can test to see if it's the wood by buying a few bundles of kiln dried firewood at the gas station or grocery store.

That stove is a serious heater. Load it up with some good fuel and let it do its thing!

-SF
 
Sly,

thanks for the advice, I like the idea of getting some dry camp wood and fill the stove a couple of times, as far as the chimney goes it is about 2.5 feet above the roof, but doesnt penetrate the roof as it goes up the side of the home. I checked the negative pressure and forgot to mention that I always leave a small window about 20 % open in a bedroom that always remains open and close to the stove. I dont think that is it..at least I hope it isn't.

I will measure the pipe again as soon as this nor' easter is over. Probably add another 3 ft section.
 
Adding a section will probably help. Since you say you have an external chimney, that supports the theory that week draft is compounding the not-quite-ready wood.

-SF
 
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