Comments and a question (re: stove temps) on my Drolet Baltic.

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WATYF

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Hi there. I purchased a Drolet Baltic a few months ago (after much drama of trying to find what I was looking for at a price I could afford). I spent a lot of time looking into which stove to buy, and I wanted to post my impressions of this stove for anyone else who might be doing the same in the future. I also had a question about stove temps (below).

I was looking for a stove in the $1000 range (but preferably lower :eek:P). I had looked at the Drolet Myriad on several occasions and went back and forth about it, but at the last minute, I ended up finding a Baltic for just a little bit more. The Baltic is the same exact stove as the Myriad, but it has some cosmetic improvements and heat-shields on the sides (which reduce the safety clearances for the Baltic).

It was purchased to replace an old (early 80's) cast iron stove that would burn hot, but short.

I've had it up and running ever since it started to get chilly here in St. Louis and it's been keeping the house warm 24/7 (only had to turn the furnace on twice when we went out of town). It's not hard to use. Lights fairly easy, once I got the hang of it. It looks nice (to me, at least). It can hold some bis-ass pieces of wood (it's pretty deep). It puts out more than enough heat to keep my 1200 square ft. Ranch warm (in fact... sometimes I overdo it and end up with temps in the 80's, since I'm still getting used to the process of keeping the house at a reasonable temperature). It has a built-in variable speed fan, which works well and isn't too loud when it's on low or medium (the higher settings are kinda loud, though). The ash pan is pretty big (although it can easily spill a bit when you're removing it, if it's sorta full).

Anyway... my general conclusion is that I'm happy with the stove. It does what I wanted (heats my whole house), and I can get over-night and all-day burns (while I'm at work), with usually enough coals to start it right back up when I wake up/get home. I think the only nit I have is that the glass doesn't stay clean, but a couple of seconds and a wet paper towel fixes that, so it's not really a big deal to me.


My very slight concern/question has to do with the fact that people here always talk about getting their temps up to 500-600 degrees, but mine never get above 350, really. I got one of those basic, magnetic T-stats and put it on the pipe exactly 18 inches above where the pipe meets the stove (as was suggested here) and it usually hovers between 250-350 degrees. The T-stat has markings that indicate the "safe" ranges, and it says that 250-350 is within that range (albeit the low end of the safe range), but I just want to know if this is something to be concerned about.

The odd thing is... even though it only says "350"... it's really damn hot. Even when the stove is full and the fire is roaring, or I close it up and turn the air control down a bit and it does the secondary burn, the T-stat never gets very high. I think it got near 400 once, but that's about it. I can't imagine what it would feel like if it got to 600, because when it's really going (at 350 or whatever), it's uncomfortable to stand near it.


WATYF
 
350* on the pipe 18" above the stove would put you at ROUGHLY 450 stove top - stove top is what people are talking about when they are getting numbers from 500* to 600* - so you probably aren't as far off as you think. Try putting the thermometer on the stove top for a couple refuels and see what kind of numbers you get. Your owner's manual should have diagrams with the suggested stove top thermo. placement options.
 
So when people talk about safe burning ranges (275-600), are they talking about stove top temps or 18" pipe temps?

In other words... where should I put the t-stat to make sure I'm not in danger of creosote build-up?

WATYF
 
Thanks for posting your review. I'm glad you are happy with your new stove. Affordable doesn't have to mean inefficient or poor construction. From the research I did before buying my stove (which is also a sub-$1000 unit), Drolets get good reviews. I would definitely include it as a brand to consider on a list of efficient and affordable EPA stoves.
 
Thanks for the review, I've looked at these myself. So how efficient do you think it is? Is it better than the stove you replaced? My house is about the same size as yours and my concern with this unit is that it may be too big for my house. Do you feel it's too big for your house?

Thanks
 
I really don't know how efficient it is compared to other modern EPA stoves, since the only comparison I have is the old cast iron one I got rid of. It's more efficient than that one, definitely. But I still seem to go through a good amount of wood.

And if I'm not careful, I can overheat the house, so I have to watch how much I put in and how often and all that, and keep it low for extended burns. I wouldn't say it's "too much" for the house, but it can be if I just run it on full all the time.

WATYF
 
I would suggest getting another magnetic thermometer (it's not really a T-stat) and put it on the stove top. There can be a large difference in temperature between the flue temp and stove top temp. It is a good idea to monitor both. When first starting a fire with a cold stove you will see a low stove top temp and a fairly high flue temp, as the stove heats up and you reduce the air the flue temp will drop and the stove temp will rise.
With a good secondary fire going and the air closed down the flue and stove top temps will tend to equalize.
 
It's my understanding that these magnets stove top thermometers are not for double wall connector pipe. They only work accurately on single wall pipe for reading flue temps, are you running a single or double wall pipe?
 
jeffman3 said:
It's my understanding that these magnets stove top thermometers are not for double wall connector pipe. They only work accurately on single wall pipe for reading flue temps, are you running a single or double wall pipe?

Correct, the magnetic thermometers are of little value for use on double wall pipe. The OP did not specify if he had single wall or double wall pipe, I assumed it was single wall.

I have double wall pipe on my stove, so a magnetic thermometer will not work, I have a thermocouple probe inserted into the pipe
to read the temperature. (Also have a thermocouple on the stove top as well)
 
WATYF said:
I really don't know how efficient it is compared to other modern EPA stoves, since the only comparison I have is the old cast iron one I got rid of. It's more efficient than that one, definitely. But I still seem to go through a good amount of wood.

And if I'm not careful, I can overheat the house, so I have to watch how much I put in and how often and all that, and keep it low for extended burns. I wouldn't say it's "too much" for the house, but it can be if I just run it on full all the time.

WATYF

Well I have an 80's era buck stove and it I would think mine would be about as efficient as your old one, so I bet this Baltic would be more efficient than this Buck. How much wood have you burned with it so far? Also, does it seem to smoke less than your old one?

Thanks again.
 
Yes, it smokes less than my old one. And if you also have an 80's cast iron, then I'm guessing you'll see a big improvement as well. I used to fill my cast iron all the way up and it would burn out in a few hours. This one can do an all night burn (8 hours+) and still have enough coals left in the morning that I can just throw another log on and it relights.

I really don't know how much wood I've burned so far. I have three wood racks (probably about 6' long) up by the house, and I've burned about three full racks so far this season. I've been using it 24/7, though. I don't even turn the furnace on except for rare occasions (out of town, etc).

WATYF
 
Well thanks for sharing your info, sounds like that stove would be a good fit for me. I burn 24/7 and the overnight burns and all day while I'm at work burns are real important to me. My Buck is able to do it but not as clean and efficient as these newer EPA's it appears.

I've been burning since October and have now used around 1-1/4 cords of wood so far.
 
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