Self leveling cement over Tile Thin-set?

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Bushfire

Burning Hunk
Nov 19, 2005
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Kennett Square, PA
I'm in the process of redoing the floor in our guest bath and I'm ripping up the old floor tile. Thing is that I'm left with a bunch of thin-set on the hardiboard that the previous owner used. Can I simply use self leveling concrete/cement to fill all the voids and get me back to a flat surface, rather than having to remove all the old thin-set - a painful and almost impossible job. The hardiboard has also been laid down with thin-set, so it's a real pain to remove back to the subfloor.

I'm thinking a 1/4 inch or so layer of self leveling concrete will get me back to a level sound surface and all I'll need to do is somehow block off the air register and the toilet drain so they don't "fill" with the leveling cement. I also plan to hold back the cement from the tub sides so that as it dries it won't crack my tub - is this necessary?

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
I went thru the same thing last year. Make sure to remove any loose existing mortar, vacuum the area then follow the directions on the self leveling mortar. If I remember correctly I had to apply a special "primer" for the self leveling mortar to adhere to. Mix it up thin and mask off the edge of your tub. I just used some scrap plywood to block heat registers and the toilet drains. While you're at it you may consider installing an electric heating grid before laying the new tile. I did it and wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Thanks, boostnet. Yes, I did a little more research and asking at HD and I've got the primer and leveling cement to start work tomorrow. If I had the money, I'd go with the electric heating, bu this is only the guest bath (kids bath once they are older) and it gets used very infrequently.

Thanks again.
 
mjwendorf said:
No need to use level quick. Just spread your thin set over the old stuff and trowel thin set on the back of your tile.

i second that. when we resurfaced our brick mantle with tile we used thin set to fill in the mortar lines on the brick and level out all the adhesive that i couldn't scrape off. the mantle was previously surfaced with mirror. hideous. i will be posting a DIY thread on it soon.
 
One other thing. Its not necessary to protect the tub -- with the exception of hydraulic cement, mortar shrinks slightly as it dries, it doesn't expand.
 
Oh, one more thing. When raising the floor, get a spacer flange for the toilet, don't just try to fill in an extra 1/2" gap with an oversize #10 wax ring (or worse yet, two rings stacked.)
 
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