I spoke to the Pelletsales.com management today

Thats funny, I called them yesterday to see if they had the log set for my p38 (and have rethought it as I havent had one person say, yeah its a good idea) and they said they did have pelets available, asked me if I bought the stove there, and when I told them I did not they gave me the same line, we only sell to people that bought thier stoves here. I found some a Tedford and Martin and have some inbound from Wolf Hill. Ive never had any luck catching them in at HD Seabrook, but its interesting that they had names on them, as I was told by the guy at the service desk that thier system doesnt allow prebuys or reservations because they cant sell whats not in stock.
Eric from Ohio should come out here and open up a store/warehouse in this area. He'd make a killing, and could take summers off and enjoy the beach

cac4 said:

Jester, I'm just down the road from you, in Rowley. I don't know who you talked to at H&H;, but they're selling pellets to non-stove customers. They just aren't delivering, and they're limiting purchases to 1 ton per month. I got a half-ton of dry creeks from them a few weeks ago. been waitin' and watchin', and hemming and hawing, with the market sitch around here. anyway, while I'd like to get a single big delivery for the bulk of my fuel needs, I figure until something reasonable and available shows up, I'll just stockpile what I can get from HH. So I was out doing errands yesterday, and I figured I'd stop by up there to see what they had...picked up another half-ton (thats all I can carry in my half-ton truck). They had NEWP "canadian", which is a softwood from BC, I guess. The place was buzzing with people picking up pellets.
on the way back, I went into HD in Seabrook for other stuff, and noticed an open pallet of hardwood pellets on the floor w/ the stoves, so I went out to the garden center to see if there were any more...there was a long row of pallets out there, but most had been claimed. At the end of the row were a few that had no names on 'em...so I was able to score 2 tons. ($299/ton). They're "pike pellets", 100% hardwood from IL. haven't looked them up yet, but I hope they don't suck. I figured I'd better take what I can get, at this point.
There were a couple more pallets there; if you call them, you might be able to snag them.

I checked the agway next to H&H;. they had some softwood pellets for 365/ton. thats just insane. but they do have them.

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sounds like what we have here, is a failure to communicate. (lol!)

Someone at H&H;has the wrong information. OR: (conjecture, here, on my part) the person with whom you spoke assumed that you wanted them delivered.
I made 2 separate purchases there, a few weeks apart. Dealt with different people each time. same story, each time. Maybe they "assume" you mean "cash and carry" if you ask in-person. Either that, or 2 different people both broke their own policy by selling me pellets.
On Saturday, I can tell you that there was a sign taped on the door that said "pellets: 1 ton limit". not "no pellets to non-stove purchasers".

HD: well, the names on the pellet pallets kind of indicates that those pellets were actually in the store. They weren't "pre-sold"; I'm sure a truck off-loaded them, customers saw them, (or called in over the phone, as I'd been told by HD people to do), and bought them. once bought, they stick a tag on them so that nobody sells them to someone else, and the delivery drivers can tell whats going where. they can't be delivered instantly, afterall.
they're pretty clueless there, overall. they didn't even know what it was that they had. somehow it was mentioned that "they're all softwood", and I balked at that, because that isn't what was on the open pallet on the sales floor. But they had no idea out in the garden center...the pallets have no visible labeling on them. So they had to cut open a pallet. now its not weather tight. (sigh). Then, we had to have an argument over sales tax...they have to charge me, 'cuz they're being delivered to MA. The system adds it in automatically. "that can't possibly be", I said. yadda yadda yadda. clueless, clueless, clueless.
next day, the delivery coordinator called to get some info...says that they're being delivered with an 18-wheeler. (!) "what????? are you nuts??" turns out, this woman refers to anything bigger than a chevy pickup as an "18 wheeler". good lord. how can you coordinate deliveries if you don't even understand your own equipment? (sigh).

T&M;: is that in Ipswich?
Wolf hill only had softwood, last I checked. (couple weeks ago).

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

Maybe the pellet mills need to ask for a bail out. ;-)

his reply was good, flawed, but good via a insider point of view. from a dwindling customer economic view the part about the furniture companies says it all. if people are not buying furniture why would they buy sawdust? supply and demand? business model was based on cheaper alternative energy. the industry cant survive at these prices. the novelty pendulum and budgets are now going the other way. lets compare, don't have to store,haul or clean every week vs oil that is cheaper. looks like no brainer- no-demand from my house. only people left are those w/electric heat. hope they buy new furniture this summer.


ps. noticed the price of steel came way way down. don't see the stoves going that way. guess us folks just aren't buying enough bolts and nuts.
yup, if you keep buying into this, you have to be nuts. if you disagree, buy a gun and then shoot yourself in the foot. then you'll understand.

ashes said:

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

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So when oil goes back up, will you be boycotting pellets and oil then? What will you burn then?

chrisasst said:

ashes said:

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

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So when oil goes back up, will you be boycotting pellets and oil then? What will you burn then?

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Cord wood

chrisasst said:

ashes said:

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

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So when oil goes back up, will you be boycotting pellets and oil then? What will you burn then?

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Corn and Furnace grade pellets($200.00 a ton)

chrisasst said:

ashes said:

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

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So when oil goes back up, will you be boycotting pellets and oil then? What will you burn then?

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move to where its warmer after i burn the furniture

Jester said:

Thats funny, I called them yesterday to see if they had the log set for my p38 (and have rethought it as I havent had one person say, yeah its a good idea) and they said they did have pelets available, asked me if I bought the stove there, and when I told them I did not they gave me the same line, we only sell to people that bought thier stoves here. I found some a Tedford and Martin and have some inbound from Wolf Hill. Ive never had any luck catching them in at HD Seabrook, but its interesting that they had names on them, as I was told by the guy at the service desk that thier system doesnt allow prebuys or reservations because they cant sell whats not in stock.
Eric from Ohio should come out here and open up a store/warehouse in this area. He'd make a killing, and could take summers off and enjoy the beach

cac4 said:

Jester, I'm just down the road from you, in Rowley. I don't know who you talked to at H&H;, but they're selling pellets to non-stove customers. They just aren't delivering, and they're limiting purchases to 1 ton per month. I got a half-ton of dry creeks from them a few weeks ago. been waitin' and watchin', and hemming and hawing, with the market sitch around here. anyway, while I'd like to get a single big delivery for the bulk of my fuel needs, I figure until something reasonable and available shows up, I'll just stockpile what I can get from HH. So I was out doing errands yesterday, and I figured I'd stop by up there to see what they had...picked up another half-ton (thats all I can carry in my half-ton truck). They had NEWP "canadian", which is a softwood from BC, I guess. The place was buzzing with people picking up pellets.
on the way back, I went into HD in Seabrook for other stuff, and noticed an open pallet of hardwood pellets on the floor w/ the stoves, so I went out to the garden center to see if there were any more...there was a long row of pallets out there, but most had been claimed. At the end of the row were a few that had no names on 'em...so I was able to score 2 tons. ($299/ton). They're "pike pellets", 100% hardwood from IL. haven't looked them up yet, but I hope they don't suck. I figured I'd better take what I can get, at this point.
There were a couple more pallets there; if you call them, you might be able to snag them.

I checked the agway next to H&H;. they had some softwood pellets for 365/ton. thats just insane. but they do have them.

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Thanks for the plug, you can stop in for your complementary ball cap.

Eric

kinsman stoves said:

Thanks for the plug, you can stop in for your complementary ball cap.

Eric

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Hey, I want a cap! Never offered me one when I plugged ya, That's not fair
(I'm telling mom too! jk)

jay

All you have to do is stop by, give the pellet pig secret handshake (does require a cold beer in the left hand), and ask.

Eric

kinsman stoves said:

All you have to do is stop by, give the pellet pig secret handshake (does require a cold beer in the left hand), and ask.

Eric

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OK will do! BUD LIGHT if I remember correctly???

jay

You are correct, Sir!

Eric

Pelletsales.com seems good, I just wished they were in my area. I love the idea of being able to buy pellets without the bag.

chrisasst said:

ashes said:

needless to say, this is mute since the industry is screwing the consumer. first it was price increases due to higher gas prices, but when gas came down the pellet prices kept increasing. am boycotting pellets this year going back to oil. their greed will be their downfall in this economy and i will be buying pellets at the going out of business sales.

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So when oil goes back up, will you be boycotting pellets and oil then? What will you burn then?

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already topped oil tanks off . am all set till this time next year-2010. will resupply based on supply and demand. (my demand not theirs)

jtakeman said:

kinsman stoves said:

All you have to do is stop by, give the pellet pig secret handshake (does require a cold beer in the left hand), and ask.

Eric

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OK will do! BUD LIGHT if I remember correctly???

jay

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Jay, when you stop to see Eric you''ll need a dog biscuit or treat to get by the security staff.
Eric, time for an updated picture of "pellet"

cms said:

jtakeman said:

kinsman stoves said:

All you have to do is stop by, give the pellet pig secret handshake (does require a cold beer in the left hand), and ask.

Eric

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OK will do! BUD LIGHT if I remember correctly???

jay

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Jay, when you stop to see Eric you''ll need a dog biscuit or treat to get by the security staff.
Eric, time for an updated picture of "pellet"

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I forgot about the new security staff he has, So bud light and Milk bones. Got it!

I agree, We would like to see how he's grown!
jay

Yep! Need updated pics of Pellet!

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it is a bit paranoid to think that EVERYONE is a shark and just waiting to bite you.



Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean that the sharks aren't out to bite you ;-) .

guess the paranoid bucks being used for other paranoid best interest hit home. the messenger always gets shot