I see you can buy a stove that heats hot water in the UK can also be tied in to baseboard heat link
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Yes you are correct
Europe is already way ahead in alternative fuel like Wood Pellet Stoves and is experimenting with water heating Pellet Stoves for already quite a while.
Probably will take another year or two till this technique will arrive here. Based on that Oil is still going up in price.
Unfortunately as the American consumer is more inclined in getting cheap products versus quality products it will take some time to take a foothold here.
There are other products out too, I'm more familiar with this one.
http://www.sht.at/index.php?id=37 and this one
http://www.rika.at/en/water_heating_stove/
Europe is already way ahead in alternative fuel like Wood Pellet Stoves and is experimenting with water heating Pellet Stoves for already quite a while.
Probably will take another year or two till this technique will arrive here. Based on that Oil is still going up in price.
Unfortunately as the American consumer is more inclined in getting cheap products versus quality products it will take some time to take a foothold here.
There are other products out too, I'm more familiar with this one.
http://www.sht.at/index.php?id=37 and this one
http://www.rika.at/en/water_heating_stove/
sinnian
Minister of Fire
But the beauty of this system is no more cold spots its tied into the baseboard heating. I have read so many blogs about moving the heat with fans and thro the wall fans along with puttting vents in the ceiling.This system would put heat into all the rooms plus
giving you hot water for showers etc. As more people go to pellets this system is a must . Engineers put on your hats or it will be like toyota and GM americans will buy the best product and if we do not produce it someone else will.Start your engines
giving you hot water for showers etc. As more people go to pellets this system is a must . Engineers put on your hats or it will be like toyota and GM americans will buy the best product and if we do not produce it someone else will.Start your engines
hoverfly
Minister of Fire
No were are not behind, in producing such stuff, it's just it was oil was to cheap. A-maize-ing Heat
webbie
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sinnian said:
12 KW - or about 40,000 BTU, is enough to heat my 2600 sq foot house in western MA in any weather down to about 10 degrees - that means 95% of the time here!
In fact, judging by my gas bill, my house uses an average of about 20,000 BTU in the COLDEST month of the year.....which translates to 480,000 BTU per day, and 14 million per month. That is 140 therms at about $1.80 a therm - or about $250 in gas.
Things are different for a leaky farmhouse in Central Maine or upper NY state.
I'm not an expert on btu etc but a delonghi oil filled radiator gives off 5000 btu so that means 8 oil filled radiators in your house . Four bedrooms thats 20000 btus and you have the other 20000 btu for the rest of the house.What I am am trying to say is I want to achieve that even heat that I used to get from oil.But alas is that day over and I got fans and drafts down low to the ground heat at the ceiling that I am trying to retrieve this system maybe at bit better than that big bellowing stove downstairs.
hoverfly
Minister of Fire
sinnian
Minister of Fire
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You're also trying to equate the efficiency of your ?NG? boiler/furnace to that of 'manufacturer rated' 12kW pellet "parlor" boiler. I just don't see it. But you are correct, it depends on the house and climate of your region.
My wife would have loved a unit like that because she could have sat in front of it and stared at it for hours too ;-)
pelletfan said:
My short experience with pellet burning has proved that when oil takes a sharp upturn so will pellets but the price of pellets won`t fluctuate accordingly. They will stay high and currently the short or long term viability of a pellet stove of any kind is as much of a gamble as is the price of fuel oil .
Those of us who already have a pellet stove can enjoy some security by laying in a years supply of pellets as a hedge against another sharp increase of oil but I`d definitely not be thinking about any sort of pellet stove purchase/installation for primary heating especially at this point in time.
BTW, I dissagree that americans want cheap products vs quality. They have specific reasons to choose cheap vs quality and most of us simply want a choice.
Those are interesting units. Had I not recently installed a new Buderus boiler with an indirect tank for hot water (and if the units were available in the US), I would have considered the concept (maybe not that specific unit) in place of my my 42k BTU Austroflamm. 42K BTU keeps my house warm to the low single digits ~ running at 75% power with the basement still between 78-80F and the cold spots in uncirculated upstair rooms are around 63-64F. The biggest issue is of closed bedroom doors are closed on cold nights -
Since my heating system is sized to -20F using oversized radiant wall panels, I can circulate lower temperature water for heat. Its worth thinking about oversized heating panels, since higher capacity panels allow lower circulating water temperatures (most systems are designed to circulate heat at 180f and return supply around 160). Lower water temperatures would need to be circulated for longer durations creating more consistent heating throughout the house.
I like the idea.
Ed
Since my heating system is sized to -20F using oversized radiant wall panels, I can circulate lower temperature water for heat. Its worth thinking about oversized heating panels, since higher capacity panels allow lower circulating water temperatures (most systems are designed to circulate heat at 180f and return supply around 160). Lower water temperatures would need to be circulated for longer durations creating more consistent heating throughout the house.
I like the idea.
Ed
Here is another European stove that looks even nicer.
http://www.calimax.com/en-twist80_20-index.shtml
Murphy
http://www.calimax.com/en-twist80_20-index.shtml
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