I have a 25 pdvc with a mf date of 11/08, out of the box this plate was sitting behind the fire box leaning forward, today when i was cleaning i noticed a tab on the back so when i put the plate back in, I hung it so know its flat against the back wall (no more leaning forward). so my question is which way is the correct way, and if leaning forward was wrong would that affect my fire? (the flames seemed to ride that plate all the way to top of stove like a inferno.......hope this all made sense...thanks
baffle plate for englander 25 pdvc
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Can't help you out with how the baffle plate should go but the following is who I would ask.
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stoveguy2esw Posted: 19 August 2009 06:56 PM [ Report ] [ Ignore ] [ # 7 ]
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stoveguy2esw Posted: 19 August 2009 06:56 PM [ Report ] [ Ignore ] [ # 7 ]
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Joined 2006-11-13 if you want specific’s about my units feel free to contact me e mail is in my sig, use the summer one. in summer i do not spend much time in my office (i like my hands dirty and getting out with the troops is the best way to stay up on my products)
BTW ty for the plug bro <blushing>
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i have the same stove and the plate has always been flat on the back wall. It must of got bounced around in shipping to lay forward.
slvrblkk
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I believe the 25 pdvc leans forward, mine does. Better check with Mike on this one. I think the pdv is supposed to lay flat.
stoveguy2esw
Minister of Fire
the pdvc (smaller unit) baffle does hang flat centered above the burn pot. the larger (pdv) has the one that leans forward
slvrblkk
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slvrblkk said:
Mike, the plate does slightly lean forward until it catches on the tab that's welded on the back of the plate, correct?
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orangecrushcj7
Feeling the Heat
Last year I noticed mine leaned forward about 3/8". I found that if I wedged a finish nail between the lower tabs and the baffle plate, it would seat more tightly against the back wall and gained higher heat output. There is a thread on the forum about it if you search for "englander baffle plate"
Orange Crush CJ-7 said:
Sounds good....can you explain how you measured the heat output gain? How much was it? I'm sure Mike Holton would be interested in the results, as would the many Englander 25 PDVC owners.
orangecrushcj7
Feeling the Heat
I have a small meat thermometer that I keep permanantly in the air grille in the same location, all heating season. I use the readings to know how tweaking the settings affect the burn, as well as comparing pellet brands.
for further background on this topic:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/28013/P0/
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Orange Crush CJ-7 - 24 December 2008 09:31 AM
there is a small tab welded on the front to be used as a handle for removal when cleaning. Mike pretty much nailed the description of the 1/2"x1/2"x3" length of angle iron welded to the back that “hooks” onto the bottom of the upper opening on the back wall of the fire chamber. I beleive the areas of the opening not covered by the plate are where the hot flue gases exit the burn chamber and get sucked out of the vent pipe. again, going on what I assume, the baffle plate is to cover the other openings so that the heat exchangers can be accessible for cleaning. otherwise, those other openings (covered by the plate) should be closed off and covered as best they can, to prevent excessive heat loss out the flue pipe. I am sure Mike will correct me if I am wrong, but I would hope he takes a few days off from work and this forum for Christmas!
stoveguy2esw - 24 December 2008 09:45 AM yep , you got it CJ, the pdvc baffle covers the lower opening which is the clean out for the heat exchangers, the upper “alcove” that extends all the way across is not covered completely but doesnt need to be, the plate hangs and fits “fairly” tight but not sealed tight, leaving a little “wiggle room” to make it easy to remove. but it should be straight up and hanging against the back wall and centered over the burn pot
for further background on this topic:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/28013/P0/
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Orange Crush CJ-7 - 24 December 2008 09:31 AM
there is a small tab welded on the front to be used as a handle for removal when cleaning. Mike pretty much nailed the description of the 1/2"x1/2"x3" length of angle iron welded to the back that “hooks” onto the bottom of the upper opening on the back wall of the fire chamber. I beleive the areas of the opening not covered by the plate are where the hot flue gases exit the burn chamber and get sucked out of the vent pipe. again, going on what I assume, the baffle plate is to cover the other openings so that the heat exchangers can be accessible for cleaning. otherwise, those other openings (covered by the plate) should be closed off and covered as best they can, to prevent excessive heat loss out the flue pipe. I am sure Mike will correct me if I am wrong, but I would hope he takes a few days off from work and this forum for Christmas!
stoveguy2esw - 24 December 2008 09:45 AM yep , you got it CJ, the pdvc baffle covers the lower opening which is the clean out for the heat exchangers, the upper “alcove” that extends all the way across is not covered completely but doesnt need to be, the plate hangs and fits “fairly” tight but not sealed tight, leaving a little “wiggle room” to make it easy to remove. but it should be straight up and hanging against the back wall and centered over the burn pot
Orange Crush CJ-7 said:
OK. So, as I asked above, what (percentage) gain in heat output did you get by modifying the angle of the baffle plate, all other things being equal (pellet brand, same settings, etc)?
orangecrushcj7
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on average I got between a 20-25 degree increase in air output temperature. I also found that I was not able to run it on heat settings 8 or 9 without getting the "overburn" error code. This was ok, because I never needed to run it on higher than 6 after I refitted the baffle plate - even in the occasional sub zero cold.
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