The on going saga of why is this stove having problems. Pic attached

havlat24 said:

Lousyweather said:

Arnold said:

kinsman stoves said:

This is a customer that claimed her stove was shutting off and later claimed the stove was "Overheating". Do you see a problem?

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Which brings me to the question.........

Why don't the stove mfg's place a small removable filter (cleanable & reusable would even be better) over the air intake of the convection blower ??

Every forced air furnace has one.

Heck, even my walmart cheap china made dehumidifier has one too !


I guess we'll have to make our own out of a green scotchbrite pad...............

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So, from how I am reading this, even though its an obvious case of lack of maintenance, its STILL the stove co's fault, right? As for furnaces, they move ALOT more air than these distribution fans do, and have a much larger intake.....I submit though, that even if a filter system were in place, the folter would still go uncleaned and unchanged........as for the furnace argument.....they rarely get changed as well when its up to the homeowner

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Thats a ridiculous claim. Millions of sales of furnace filters in hardware stores says your wrong.

Also, these stove co's have to accept some accountability. They need to take the crayons out of whatever kids hands that designed these things and make the inside motors that require maintenance more accessible. You shouldn't have to 80% disassemble the unit to clean it.

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sydney1963 said:

littlesmokey said:

SmokeyTheBear said:

sydney1963 said:

Ok, here goes, I must confess. I took my stove apart and my intentions were good. I first took the vent pipe apart and vacuumed it really good, but couldn't get the Tcap off and had to buy a new one $59 ish, then took off the combustion blower (rubber arms is not even close to the issue of getting the bolts out) I practically had to stand on my head, turn each bolt a quarter of a turn because there is no room to get a full turn in. (Maybe I didn't have long enough tools, but cut me some slack I'm a woman). Once I got the combustion blower off, I vacuumed it really good but accidentally waived the hose past the gasket and sucked it up in the vacuum. :gulp: Went to the website to now buy another gasket $25 ish bucks w/shipping to replace it (but I'm warm tonight and not complaining mind you) Got that back together with the new gasket (took 1 hour at least and one good back ache afterwards). The last thing I could think of was taking off the room blower to find myself in the same situation. Will absolutely do it next year (2 dogs by the way, one is a big shedder) My bad???

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You bad sydney, very, very bad.

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She sucked her gasket, OH the HORROR of it all.

Syd, we should give you extra green boxes, you have done something many here are intimidated to try.

For those will tough reaches to your intake fans (room circulators) stop being cheap, buy a quality vac. I have gone the further step to get an ash vac. make a step down/step up adapter get some ribbed tubing (that will bend and stay - wire reinforced) and make yourself a small vacuum probe. If you do this on a regular basis, you won't have a problem build up.

For those in the throws of the craze, do not, repeat do not try this using a leaf blower.

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Taking the room blower off consists of 5-6 bolts to be removed (which is no small task mind you) vacuuming the fins and insides of the blower and putting it back together (which is like working inside a crackerbox) Not a simple buy a nice vacuum and your set. I have a cheap Wally world vacuum w/dry wall bags that works nicely, not being cheap here. TY

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kinsman stoves said:

Who said a picture is worth a thousand words. You guys rock and need a hobby..... Oh you have one, Hearth.com.

Eric

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Lousyweather said:

havlat24 said:

Lousyweather said:

Arnold said:

kinsman stoves said:

This is a customer that claimed her stove was shutting off and later claimed the stove was "Overheating". Do you see a problem?

Click to expand...

Which brings me to the question.........

Why don't the stove mfg's place a small removable filter (cleanable & reusable would even be better) over the air intake of the convection blower ??

Every forced air furnace has one.

Heck, even my walmart cheap china made dehumidifier has one too !


I guess we'll have to make our own out of a green scotchbrite pad...............

Click to expand...

So, from how I am reading this, even though its an obvious case of lack of maintenance, its STILL the stove co's fault, right? As for furnaces, they move ALOT more air than these distribution fans do, and have a much larger intake.....I submit though, that even if a filter system were in place, the folter would still go uncleaned and unchanged........as for the furnace argument.....they rarely get changed as well when its up to the homeowner

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Thats a ridiculous claim. Millions of sales of furnace filters in hardware stores says your wrong.

Also, these stove co's have to accept some accountability. They need to take the crayons out of whatever kids hands that designed these things and make the inside motors that require maintenance more accessible. You shouldn't have to 80% disassemble the unit to clean it.

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lol- well, owning a hardware store, stove dealership, and an OIL COMPANY, I am in the position to tell you you overestimate the average consumer. And as for your ridiculous claim that you have to dissassemble 80% of the stove to clean it.....another overestimation. If folks arent willing to clean the vanes in their fans, they arent going to clean a filter either. As I said, or rather, alluded to, its impossible to idiot-proof a stove.....

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havlat24 said:

Lousyweather said:

Arnold said:

kinsman stoves said:

This is a customer that claimed her stove was shutting off and later claimed the stove was "Overheating". Do you see a problem?

Click to expand...

Which brings me to the question.........

Why don't the stove mfg's place a small removable filter (cleanable & reusable would even be better) over the air intake of the convection blower ??

Every forced air furnace has one.

Heck, even my walmart cheap china made dehumidifier has one too !


I guess we'll have to make our own out of a green scotchbrite pad...............

Click to expand...

So, from how I am reading this, even though its an obvious case of lack of maintenance, its STILL the stove co's fault, right? As for furnaces, they move ALOT more air than these distribution fans do, and have a much larger intake.....I submit though, that even if a filter system were in place, the folter would still go uncleaned and unchanged........as for the furnace argument.....they rarely get changed as well when its up to the homeowner

Click to expand...

Thats a ridiculous claim. Millions of sales of furnace filters in hardware stores says your wrong.

Also, these stove co's have to accept some accountability. They need to take the crayons out of whatever kids hands that designed these things and make the inside motors that require maintenance more accessible. You shouldn't have to 80% disassemble the unit to clean it.

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stoveguy2esw said:

havlat24 said:

Lousyweather said:

Arnold said:

kinsman stoves said:

This is a customer that claimed her stove was shutting off and later claimed the stove was "Overheating". Do you see a problem?

Click to expand...

Which brings me to the question.........

Why don't the stove mfg's place a small removable filter (cleanable & reusable would even be better) over the air intake of the convection blower ??

Every forced air furnace has one.

Heck, even my walmart cheap china made dehumidifier has one too !


I guess we'll have to make our own out of a green scotchbrite pad...............

Click to expand...

So, from how I am reading this, even though its an obvious case of lack of maintenance, its STILL the stove co's fault, right? As for furnaces, they move ALOT more air than these distribution fans do, and have a much larger intake.....I submit though, that even if a filter system were in place, the folter would still go uncleaned and unchanged........as for the furnace argument.....they rarely get changed as well when its up to the homeowner

Click to expand...

Thats a ridiculous claim. Millions of sales of furnace filters in hardware stores says your wrong.

Also, these stove co's have to accept some accountability. They need to take the crayons out of whatever kids hands that designed these things and make the inside motors that require maintenance more accessible. You shouldn't have to 80% disassemble the unit to clean it.

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well you know we could mount the components externally so they would be readily accessable, would make the stove look kinda funny. ive had the 25-pdvc in house since 2004 and have pulled and cleaned the components regularly with no difficulty. helps to have decent tools which make for easier maintenance. an extension for my cordless to reach into tight spots is what makes the difference. persoanlly i think servicing a pellet stove is far easier than most of the other appliances i have in my home.

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