Buying a 3rd wood stove

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amkazen

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Dec 29, 2007
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Albuquerque, NM
Hi,
I have the Pacific Energy Artisan in the far corner of our 2nd floor, which is the main living floor/area. It did ok but the bedrooms were always cold, especially the master bedroom & it's bathroom. Never again will I put a wood stove on one end of the house. It will go in a more central location. So, we added a second wood stove on the 2nd floor, an Englander 13NCL, when we expanded the master bedroom into a master bedroom suite. I like this stove but my wife thinks it is a little "rough" in how it burns and she loves the PE Artisan. But, the Englander works good for it's intended purpose, heating the master bedroom suite, so for now the Englander stays. I will add a blower to it this next month and it will help even more with heating the entire 2nd floor when combined with the Artisan's heating capability.

The question now is we would like to add a 3rd stove to the house, and it would be on the 1st floor. This is the garage, game room, theater room, etc. floor so this floor is not used daily but more like weekly. And, once again, on the next house there will be no 2nd floor. We will go with a 1-story house. But, right now the 1st floor is pretty chilly so we would like a stove we can load up with wood and let burn away, heating the floor space of approximately 1,100 square feet. This new stove will be placed on an outside wall but in a central location of the entire 1st floor. My preference is a non-cat stove as the other two stoves are non-cat stoves so I would like to keep the operation of all three stoves the same, and not have to do something different for one stove.

My thoughts are a soapstone stove as I think they can hold the heat for longer periods of times but I am not sure. I am considering the Woodstock and Hearthstone stoves based on the comments I have read on this site. Anyone have anything to say I should consider as to what kind of stove I should consider? I was thinking a stove that did not have any windows/glass on it, going for more of a heater/furnace look but that would have to be approved by my wife 1st. We are at 7,000 feet in the foothils above Albuquerque and we get snow about 6 - 7 times per year, when Albuquerque gets snow about 1 - 2 times per year. We are regularly in the low - mid teens, and occasionally drop to single digit temps. We do have radiant in-floor heat but we keep that temp at about 60 degrees due to the cost of propane used to fire the boiler, which also heats our domestic water supply.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
 
amkazen said:
Hi,
I have the Pacific Energy Artisan in the far corner of our 2nd floor, which is the main living floor/area. It did ok but the bedrooms were always cold, especially the master bedroom & it's bathroom. Never again will I put a wood stove on one end of the house. It will go in a more central location. So, we added a second wood stove on the 2nd floor, an Englander 13NCL, when we expanded the master bedroom into a master bedroom suite. I like this stove but my wife thinks it is a little "rough" in how it burns and she loves the PE Artisan. But, the Englander works good for it's intended purpose, heating the master bedroom suite, so for now the Englander stays. I will add a blower to it this next month and it will help even more with heating the entire 2nd floor when combined with the Artisan's heating capability.

The question now is we would like to add a 3rd stove to the house, and it would be on the 1st floor. This is the garage, game room, theater room, etc. floor so this floor is not used daily but more like weekly. And, once again, on the next house there will be no 2nd floor. We will go with a 1-story house. But, right now the 1st floor is pretty chilly so we would like a stove we can load up with wood and let burn away, heating the floor space of approximately 1,100 square feet. This new stove will be placed on an outside wall but in a central location of the entire 1st floor. My preference is a non-cat stove as the other two stoves are non-cat stoves so I would like to keep the operation of all three stoves the same, and not have to do something different for one stove.

My thoughts are a soapstone stove as I think they can hold the heat for longer periods of times but I am not sure. I am considering the Woodstock and Hearthstone stoves based on the comments I have read on this site. Anyone have anything to say I should consider as to what kind of stove I should consider? I was thinking a stove that did not have any windows/glass on it, going for more of a heater/furnace look but that would have to be approved by my wife 1st. We are at 7,000 feet in the foothils above Albuquerque and we get snow about 6 - 7 times per year, when Albuquerque gets snow about 1 - 2 times per year. We are regularly in the low - mid teens, and occasionally drop to single digit temps. We do have radiant in-floor heat but we keep that temp at about 60 degrees due to the cost of propane used to fire the boiler, which also heats our domestic water supply.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kind of depends upon what you can afford... or want to spend. One of the Englanders would do the job just fine and it would cost you under a grand (most likely). But, if you have the coin to spend on the Hearthstone, than more power to you. The Hearthstone Homestead sounds like the stove for you. A bit smaller than the Heritage but it will still give you a decent burn time.
 
If the room/floor will require quick heat I'd go with steel. Steel will heat up, and cool down faster than soap stone.

Since you have a steel stove the better half doesn't like maybe you could move it down to the game room area and put the nice soapstone where you can appreciate it every day.

Matt
 
I was thinking along the same lines as Matt.

We own 2 Woodstock stoves and we love them, but soapstone is really at its best when its used continually, I think. In our home we have no trouble starting a new fire in the stove if we've allowed the fire to die out because the house doesn't lose temperature quickly. In that case a new fire brings the area to cozy pretty quickly. In my studio it's not the same, at all. I leave the back up thermostat set at 50 and if the stove goes cold and the temperature drops to the mid-low 50s it takes the stove a couple of hours to bring the temperature back up to my preferred comfort level. I find it easier to simply keep the stove fired and the space warm; that seems to make most effective use of the soapstone and the stove's overall efficiency.
 
EatenByLimestone said:
If the room/floor will require quick heat I'd go with steel. Steel will heat up, and cool down faster than soap stone.

Since you have a steel stove the better half doesn't like maybe you could move it down to the game room area and put the nice soapstone where you can appreciate it every day.

Matt

Yup, go with a steel stove for quicker heat up times for occasional use. If you already like the PE quality and burn, go with it again. They are a great little stove. Other stoves that I have used/sold in the past with excellent feedback from our customers:
1. Regency
2. Quadrafire

Id go with something that had a 2 cubic foot firebox. Not too large for 1100 square feet, but large enough to get a long burn time if needed.
 
If I had to fuel 3 stoves regularly I would be installing a wood boiler or furnace the next summer.
 
Thanks for the great answers. And, my wife has suggested moving the Englander downstairs and replacing it with one she likes more.

I like the idea of steel for quick heat..had not really thought of that before. I had focused mostly on getting it to heat up and forgetting (kind of) about it.

A wood fired boiler or furnace is an interesting idea. I thought of that a few years ago but saw people on here were going thru 7 - 10 cords of wood per year, and that kind of put me off to have to deal with 365 days a year, where right now I deal with wood maybe 6 months of the year. But, I think I will revisit that idea...hmmmm...my mind is coming up with lots of ideas now...

Thanks!
 
3 stoves will go through that amount just as easily as a boiler. And you would only have one chimney to keep clean with a boiler.

Matt
 
BeGreen said:
If I had to fuel 3 stoves regularly I would be installing a wood boiler or furnace the next summer.

Ya no Sheet. I can tell from experience, running three stoves is a major fat pain in the arse. Two is alot of work but managable.
 
amkazen said:
Thanks for the great answers. And, my wife has suggested moving the Englander downstairs and replacing it with one she likes more.

I like the idea of steel for quick heat..had not really thought of that before. I had focused mostly on getting it to heat up and forgetting (kind of) about it.

A wood fired boiler or furnace is an interesting idea. I thought of that a few years ago but saw people on here were going thru 7 - 10 cords of wood per year, and that kind of put me off to have to deal with 365 days a year, where right now I deal with wood maybe 6 months of the year. But, I think I will revisit that idea...hmmmm...my mind is coming up with lots of ideas now...

Thanks!

No need for 365 day wood heated hot water. In Albuquerque, unless the building is badly shaded, solar domestic hot water seems like a no brainer. It should pay for itself very quickly. Who knows, it might even be able to handle a part of the house heat in the shoulder seasons?
 
BeGreen said:
If I had to fuel 3 stoves regularly I would be installing a wood boiler or furnace the next summer.

+1 on the boiler especially given that you already have in floor radiant. That gets you down to maintaining one fire instead of 3.
 
Ok, I think I have enough info on the 3rd stove question to close this post. But, I am going to put a post in the boiler room about adding a wood-fired boiler or furnace, or replacing my current propane fired boiler. So, jump over there if you can help answer that question, and give me further info & ideas. Thanks! Happy New Year.
 
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