Overnight burns in my Jotul C450 insert - success!

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oconnor

Minister of Fire
Nov 20, 2005
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I had a PM a while back from someone looking for good info on getting longer burns from the C450. At the time, I had never had any such luck, but now things have changed. Early this fall, I had a liner changout for a 6" insulated flex in my internal brick chimney, and still had lots of wood from last year. Now, with the cool temps and more consistant burning, I am able to get overnight burns that leave me with ample coals for an easy restart in the morning (8-9 hours after the reload the night before). That, and I'm not overheating the house at night. I like it cool when I sleep, so trying it with warmer outside temps back in Oct didn't make sense.

Basically, I am getting the flue warm over the evening of burning, reload the stove at 11pm (filling it to the brim) and getting it burning hot (650*F on the stove top). then I start to bring the air down until I have just the secondaries burning (air control all the way closed), then go to bed. Most nights lately I have even left the blower running on low, and it is still going in the AM (0730). In all, I have 7-8 hours of unattended stove and good coals for restart - not a true 8 hour burn time, but 8 hours of warm nonetheless.

The change has been the flue, wood, and the cold outside temps to keep the draft going to allow the clean burn (no black glass in the am). I had zero chance of getting these results last year (5” uninsulated flue with barely dry enough wood)

Hope that helps those looking for results, and gives some hope to those who don't have the ideal wood to do it this year. Get some dry wood (order it now), and next year will be even better!
 
Nice work. I too can acheive an overnight burn but it sounds like I've got a few more years of experience with the 450 than you. If you split your own wood its important to have a variety of sizes (IMO). I've found that pulling the coals forward and putting a big chunk behind them with "normal" sized splits then filling the firebox gives me 8+ hour burn times. Keep in mind that I'm lucky when it comes to wood species. Oak, locust, hickory, mulberry, hard maple, ..... common stuff around here. Your results may vary.
 
The insulated flue will maintain higher temps for longer. Given that draft is temp related, it will give better draft. That is relevant because the draft has to be high enough for the stove to continue to operate well with the primary air closed for me to get a longer burn. If the draft were to decrease more rapidly overnight as the fire died off, then the coals would cool more quickly, and I wouldn't have coals enough for a restart, which is my goal.
 
Brent, Glad to hear that everything is working well for you. I can always get an 8-9 hour burn out of my 450 with plenty of coals and the fan going in the morning. I also suspect that the longer burn times are associated with a good mix of hardwoods and sizes. The biggest improvement that I have seen with my stove performance this year over last is from better seasoned wood, it also keeps the glass cleaner. I think the 450 is a great medium size heat machine.
 
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