Mt. Vernon AE 20% Grass Hardwood Pellets - What Settings should I use? Opinons Please.

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BIGISLANDHIKERS said:
I wanted to use cherry pits and dealer said it would void the warranty. I double checked with quad and they verified. A real bummer. :(
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Sorry I had missed this response

Your baffle was falling apart because of a manufacturing defect in the baffle and Quadrafire knew it. Manufacturing defects are covered, you just can’t show up with a rusted out baffle because your stove was under water for a week.
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Right, my point exactly.... manufacturers discretion
 
Switchgrass is a grass, wheat is a grass...all biomass. I have an AE, I say burn it if you got it! I would use the wheat or utility setting, check the flame and see which one it burns better at. One will give it more air than the other. Let us know how it goes.
 
Grass pellets have aprox 8 times more ash than a wood pellet. Even though it is only 20% grass expect the ash to be about double that of a wood pellet. Also expect silica and pebble like masses. We(macman-schoondog an myself) have a thread going on grass. Interesting stuff! We found that more air helped the burn.

Yes I have burned grass! 100% grass at that. and my stove is rated for it. No warranty issue's for me!

Just be prepared for a lot more mess than you are used to!
 
Another thing to remember. God forbid you have a hopper fire or worse when using a non-approved fuel Quad would have an easy out for liabiltiy. Also, I wonder if the insurance company would also have an out as well? I wish they would approve these other fuels. Chances are they will burn fine and Quad just hasn't gotten around to it yet. I'm not taking a chance though.

BIH
 
I know people who have burned ton of grass in the Quads and have had no problems. Sunflower or utility setting work well . Dump ash pan every 2 days. Burn grass not gas! DJ
 
Bah... Multi fuel stove only 20% other bio fuel...burn that pellet. How is it going. How is the ash? How is the heat ? I think a guy at work has the Mt. vernon and I remember him saying there are many diffferent settings and I would be of no help with that. As Jtakeman said it may have twice the ash. I think I would try a softwood, hardwood wood and softer grass mixed in= softwood? I guess it wood depend on compression and temp. at compression.

Schoondog
 
I really don't know. But I don't think there are corrosives in the grass pellets like there is in corn. Maybe some of the mount vernon owners ought to put a bug in Quads ear and see if they can approve this as an acceptable fuel. Probably require a software mod to do so.
 
jtakeman said:
I really don't know. But I don't think there are corrosives in the grass pellets like there is in corn. Maybe some of the mount vernon owners ought to put a bug in Quads ear and see if they can approve this as an acceptable fuel. Probably require a software mod to do so.
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Quads programming isn't that good anyways. Most people would probably still find a better burn using the Utility or Sunflower seed setting.
 
mainegeek said:
jtakeman said:
I really don't know. But I don't think there are corrosives in the grass pellets like there is in corn. Maybe some of the mount vernon owners ought to put a bug in Quads ear and see if they can approve this as an acceptable fuel. Probably require a software mod to do so.
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Quads programming isn't that good anyways. Most people would probably still find a better burn using the Utility or Sunflower seed setting.
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Agreed.... I have to run any brand of pellet on utility. Otherwise the pot gets too much fuel in it.
 
So, I'll eat crow on this!

Here is Quadra Fire's response to my email:
RE: Quadra-Fire Technical Question (Thread:86716)‏
From: Quadrafire Customer Service ([email protected])

Thank you for your inquiry.

Yes, it does. Yes, we have. Some testing on other fuels has been done; none
has been completed at this time, and we have no time-table for completion.

We test and list every appliance as a system through the testing agency
listed in the installation and operation manual for each specific appliance.
This system testing includes Fuel types, all required components, and the
optional accessories specified in the installation manual. The use of
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-----Original Message-----
To: [email protected]
Subject: Quadra-Fire Technical Question (Thread:86716)

Customer Type: Consumer
Type of question: Technical
Model: Mount Vernon AE
Serial Number:
Question: Hello, I have a question regarding fuel types for the Mount
Vernon AE. The dealer was unable to answer my question. In the manual
it states the following: "Tested and approved for wood pellets, shelled
field corn, wheat and black oil sunflower seeds. Burning of any other
type of fuel voids your warranty." However, many places now have
pellets made out of grass, some are a mix of wood/grass (80/20). There is
also cherry pits that are also available for multi-fuel stoves. Does
this mean the use of these fuels will void the warranty of my appliance?
Has Quadra Fire considered the use of these types of fuel? Has there been
any testing? Thanks
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At least it sounds like they are willing to consider other fuels after some validation testing and it sound like they may currently be doing some.
 
mainegeek said:
SmokeyTheBear said:
I'll get a license first thing tomorrow and shoot you one, to what address should I send it?
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I'll meet you at the Black Crow Bakery! :)
http://blackcrowbread.com/
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Gee mainegeek, I do believe I know the place. In fact I know some former owners of that property. They were here for a family get together the end of December ;-) .

You'll have to wait a bit for the meat dish, I looked up the seasons on crow and while I can get the license tomorrow. I have to wait until March 14 or so to drop the hammer on one. There's a split season on them.
 
mainegeek thats good information to have. Thanks for writting them. I know I have been tempted to get some cherry pits. They are very available here.
 
You’ll have to wait a bit for the meat dish, I looked up the seasons on crow and while I can get the license tomorrow. I have to wait until March 14 or so to drop the hammer on one. There’s a split season on them.
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Funny, I thought you were joking; till I Googled it.
 
mainegeek said:
You’ll have to wait a bit for the meat dish, I looked up the seasons on crow and while I can get the license tomorrow. I have to wait until March 14 or so to drop the hammer on one. There’s a split season on them.
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Funny, I thought you were joking; till I Googled it.
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When it comes to playing with fire and sending shot out the front of a firearm, I always err on the side of caution and keeping this critter's hind quarters out of a jail cell.
 
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