Chimney over 25' - screwed with Englander?

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albertj03

Minister of Fire
Oct 16, 2009
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Southern Maine
I had planned on replacing my tiny CFM stove (which is in my basement) with an Englander 30-nc but read here that the manual states it should not be connected to a flue over 25' in length. I checked the Englander site and both the 13 and 30 have this no flue over 25' language in the manual. I don't know how tall my chimney is but I know for sure it's over 25' tall specially since the stove is in the basement. As you can see in the pic below it is a masonary chimney with a clay liner. The liner is 10"x7". Being a "better safe than sorry" type of guy I would rather not just go ahead and install this stove because my home owners insurance requires that you fill out a form stating that the stove is installed to all manufactorer specifications and is inspected. When the fire department came to inspect my current stove they went through the entire manual and checked every spec so I know they would probably catch it and not pass my inspection. I also get a super draft in my stove on really windy days (like today) and have to almost close the primary air to keep the fire from raging too much so I can see why they would put this in the manual.

So, my question is am I totaly screwed when it comes to Englander stoves and if so, what other stoves are similar in performance and price that don't have this restriction?

Thanks

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dont know much about the stove but i dont think it would be much of a problem. you could also put a flue damper in the smoke pipe if it over drafts. also do you have to 90 into the chimney or is it going straight up and are there any offsets in the chimney? a 90 is basically like taking 5 feet off a chimney and some other slight bends will effect draft as well. well the five feet rule is what we use at work for heating and a/c might be different in the chimney but it cuts down draft.
 
Send an email to ESW tech support telling them what you have and asking if it will be ok. Then save the email they send back for the inspector.
 
ecocavalier02 said:
dont know much about the stove but i dont think it would be much of a problem. you could also put a flue damper in the smoke pipe if it over drafts. also do you have to 90 into the chimney or is it going straight up and are there any offsets in the chimney? a 90 is basically like taking 5 feet off a chimney and some other slight bends will effect draft as well. well the five feet rule is what we use at work for heating and a/c might be different in the chimney but it cuts down draft.

There is one 90 into the chimney and it's straight up from there. The 5 foot rule is good to know - thanks.

BrotherBart said:
Send an email to ESW tech support telling them what you have and asking if it will be ok. Then save the email they send back for the inspector.

Great idea! I will give them a call - thanks.
 
I finally got around to calling Englander today to ask about my chimney being over 25'. The rep I spoke with said that they could probably have an engineer write a letter stating that it is ok to install either the 13 or 30 nc with a flue that is over 25' as long as there is a flue damper installed in the stove pipe. Good to know so when I'm ready to pull the trigger I'll call back to see if I can get that letter.
 
albertj03 said:
I finally got around to calling Englander today to ask about my chimney being over 25'. The rep I spoke with said that they could probably have an engineer write a letter stating that it is ok to install either the 13 or 30 nc with a flue that is over 25' as long as there is a flue damper installed in the stove pipe. Good to know so when I'm ready to pull the trigger I'll call back to see if I can get that letter.

Can you make a copy for me? :) I'm going to need the exact same letter.

I'm running with a 32' flue right now. I haven't had any problems, but the air control isn't much use outside of the first inch or so of travel (as I guess you would expect). Getting my flue damper this weekend.

Here's a vid I shot after I put a round in a bed of hot coals. It ran this way for about 5 mins, got the stove to about 450 and then settled down.

Note: The sound is the blower, it's not anywhere near that annoying in real life.

 
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