Englander 25 pdvc ignitor issue

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donbryce

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Jan 8, 2009
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I bought my Englander last year, and used about 60 - 70 bags over the season. Our standard running time during the Dec. - Mar. period is 'on' at 5:30 AM or so, shut down around noon (depending on outside temps), re-start around late afternoon, and run until bedtime, usually 11:30PM or a little earlier weekdays, later weekends. So, with a setting of 1 1 almost 90% of the time, we get comfortable heat in the livingroom/kitchen using a minimum of pellets.
This practise does, however, require the ignitor to heat up 2 - 3 times every day. Twice last year, and 4 times this year, it failed to heat up after the 'on' button was pressed. I've resorted to standing in front of the stove and waiting until I see the little red 'dot' (tip of ignitor glowing) and some sparks before going back to bed or leaving the stove, and this year, I wait until I see flame before trusting it. Once, I waited until the pellets had fed for about 10 minutes, noticed no red ignition spot, then pushed the 'on' button again. Big mistake. That started the start-up cycle over, and by the time the pellets ignited, I had a massive over-fire going, and had to shut down and clean it all up. Now, if I don't see the dot within 5 minutes, I push 'off', wait till the stove shuts off, then scoop out all the pellets and start over.
I've tried different ways to push the 'on' button, like holding it in for a second or 2, and pushing it harder, and notice that it goes in first, then there is a 'click' when it is released....a relay from the control board? Has anyone had a similar experience? How many on cycles should I expect from the Englander ignitor, and is this occasional non-performance a sign of impending failure?
Other than a stuck auger motor last year, which I fixed, this is really the only issue from my 25 pdvc that I have.
 
donbryce said:
I bought my Englander last year, and used about 60 - 70 bags over the season. Our standard running time during the Dec. - Mar. period is 'on' at 5:30 AM or so, shut down around noon (depending on outside temps), re-start around late afternoon, and run until bedtime, usually 11:30PM or a little earlier weekdays, later weekends. So, with a setting of 1 1 almost 90% of the time, we get comfortable heat in the livingroom/kitchen using a minimum of pellets.
This practise does, however, require the ignitor to heat up 2 - 3 times every day. Twice last year, and 4 times this year, it failed to heat up after the 'on' button was pressed. I've resorted to standing in front of the stove and waiting until I see the little red 'dot' (tip of ignitor glowing) and some sparks before going back to bed or leaving the stove, and this year, I wait until I see flame before trusting it. Once, I waited until the pellets had fed for about 10 minutes, noticed no red ignition spot, then pushed the 'on' button again. Big mistake. That started the start-up cycle over, and by the time the pellets ignited, I had a massive over-fire going, and had to shut down and clean it all up. Now, if I don't see the dot within 5 minutes, I push 'off', wait till the stove shuts off, then scoop out all the pellets and start over.
I've tried different ways to push the 'on' button, like holding it in for a second or 2, and pushing it harder, and notice that it goes in first, then there is a 'click' when it is released....a relay from the control board? Has anyone had a similar experience? How many on cycles should I expect from the Englander ignitor, and is this occasional non-performance a sign of impending failure?
Other than a stuck auger motor last year, which I fixed, this is really the only issue from my 25 pdvc that I have.

Interesting post! I`d suggest a visual check for a loose connection and if that fails to reveal anything I`d be calling Englander on this one. Maybe even a defective igniter?
 
I don't know how things are set up on the stove but a lot of stoves have the igniter centered in a tube that allows air to flow past the igniter.

If the area around the igniter gets ash stuck in it you'll get a slower start. Something to check while waiting for someone with that stove to chime in.
 
I had this issue and now it works much better. A few things that can help.

Put a few pellets in front of the lighter before you start it. This will allow for a quicker start time.

The area around the lighter should be scraped periodically.

When I cleaned and re-insalled the burn pot I had to increase the area in the new gasket to allow the heater to work better.

If it doesn't start which will happen now and again I will take starter fluid to make sure it lights the next time
 
Thanks very much smwilliamson. Although I'm not sure that it's indeed an air problem, as I should see the ignitor glow regardless (I believe from 110V), I'll keep this solution in mind if the situation recurs. For sure, I'll be including blowing out the hose as part of my annual cleaning/maintenance (as it sounds like a bit of a tear-down to access it).
 
Wood Pellet User said:
I had this issue and now it works much better. A few things that can help.

Put a few pellets in front of the lighter before you start it. This will allow for a quicker start time.

The area around the lighter should be scraped periodically.

When I cleaned and re-insalled the burn pot I had to increase the area in the new gasket to allow the heater to work better.

If it doesn't start which will happen now and again I will take starter fluid to make sure it lights the next time

I had been putting a handful of pellets in the burn pot corner, in front of the ignitor, all last year and up to a few weeks ago this year. I decided that the stove feeds just enough pellets during startup to create a little pile there at about the time the ignitor has heated up to ignition point. The handful I was putting there blocked my view of the ignitor hole, so I can't see it heating up.
I'll check the burnpot gasket next major cleaning, as I replaced mine during the Sept. season cleanup, and maybe didn't get it back in just right. Comments appreciated.
 
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