Talk me out of this stove at tractor supply
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thinkxingu
Minister of Fire
Gee, gyrfalcon, sorry I missed that 6-word sentence in the middle of a series of paragraphs riddled with Lowe's and HD postings
Of course, you missed MY 'or' in the "HD OR Lowe’s" suggestion.
Besides, is there only one HD in your area K? Looks like there are 3 within 20 miles of Asheville (someone mentioned this above, so I assume you're somewhere in that area).
S
Of course, you missed MY 'or' in the "HD OR Lowe’s" suggestion.Besides, is there only one HD in your area K? Looks like there are 3 within 20 miles of Asheville (someone mentioned this above, so I assume you're somewhere in that area).
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gyrfalcon
Minister of Fire
thinkxingu said:Gee, gyrfalcon, sorry I missed that 6-word sentence in the middle of a series of paragraphs riddled with Lowe's and HD postings
Besides, is there only one HD in your area K? Looks like there are 3 within 20 miles of Asheville (someone mentioned this above, so I assume you're somewhere in that area).
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Let me try this one more time. It was suggested by me and others that the OP could get an Englander by ordering it on line on the assumption that, you know, she actually meant it when she said she couldn't find one locally.
I was pricing the Englander 30 last week on Home Depot website and it was listed at a sale price of $1039.00 with shipping included,sounds pretty good if your budget is $1500.00 blower is extra, but it's still under 1500 with blower and a whole lot better than that tractor supply stove
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
tickbitty said:
I figure im one of the few Who actually tried a Tractor supply stove first time out,and then went on to a real home heating appliance.
I fell like i went right from a Yugo to a Rolls Royce
That Tractor supply stove has its merits ,but most of them do not include heating a home 24/7
Good for heating your tractor or your barn from time to time, or burning junk mail.
It actually has a 104000 BTU rating (The TS Stove) Mostly BS but it does throw some quick heat and is completely out in 2-3 hours no matter how you stuff it or
how you set the only air control which is a damper in the flue pipe.
Regards
In the interest of fairness here it needs to be pointed out that trump had the USSC King stove which is a 35:1 EPA exempt stove which is pretty much just a steel box with a door on it and no re-burn capabilities or primary air control. The subject stove of the thread, the USSC Magnolia, is in fact a EPA certified re-burn stove that will provide input air control and cleaner longer burns that are not possible with a stove like the King.
Apples need to be compared with apples.
Apples need to be compared with apples.
No clue on the build quality of that stove, but keep in mind you're buying more than a steel box: you're buying into their support network in a sense, too. From what I've read on here, England's has great support/service. Just as I can't comment on the build quality of the Magnolia, I can't comment on their service as I've not experienced it or read about it here. If you want a quality, reliable stove that comes with good support after the sale, I just can't see how you could go wrong with an Englander/Summer's Heat.
On a side note, I noticed in the Daytona 500 that England's was a sponsor on one of the cars. Can't recall whose car it was now, though.
On a side note, I noticed in the Daytona 500 that England's was a sponsor on one of the cars. Can't recall whose car it was now, though.
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
BrotherBart said:
Agreed ,I also indicated that i paid $499 for the stove, and i guess you get what you pay for. I did see higher priced stoves tractor supply at the time but for some reason they had a lower BTU rating like 35000BTUs or something, THe king Stove was Rared at 104,000 BTUs but i think is a little BS mixed with the fact that i only burns for 2-3 hours. A I remember about the higher priced stoves was they a pretty small stove with a rather low BTU rating.
Found my thread on the Magnolia and confirmed it is made in China. I saw it in the store, so no idea about how well it burns. I do remember the welds looking clean and generally seeing a simple, small stove design. We do have a couple posters here that seem satisfied with the way it burns.
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/26046/
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/26046/
BeGreen said:
Color me even more confused. How is a 3.1 cf 65,000 btu stove a "small stove design"?
OK. I contacted U.S. Stove company. Seems that the Magnolia is made in three plants. One in Tennessee, some by SBI/Drolet in Canada and some in a plant they had built in China.
pulldownclaw
Feeling the Heat
Don't know if I missed it somewhere, but you're saying you want to install and start burning right away, and not buy more oil. I know the oil bill is painful (from personal experience) but I'm not sure you're going to have a good experience if you get green wood and have a smoldering fire for the rest of the season. Is your idea to rough it and get through as well you can this year and try to get ahead for next Winter? Maybe start collecting some pallet wood to help out that firewood you're going to buy....
I was up in Asheville a few weeks ago, saw lots of storm damaged trees, seemed liked there would be tons of scrounging opportunities...
I was up in Asheville a few weeks ago, saw lots of storm damaged trees, seemed liked there would be tons of scrounging opportunities...
Thanks for all of your input. I do have some seasoned wood coming this week. This isn't my first prom 
. I have heated solely with wood before, but it has been many years, and I didn't purchase that stove. I do have my own truck and am looking forward to scavenging wood. I have not checked out every HD in the area, so that is a possibility when I can find the time.
. I have heated solely with wood before, but it has been many years, and I didn't purchase that stove. I do have my own truck and am looking forward to scavenging wood. I have not checked out every HD in the area, so that is a possibility when I can find the time.
Dix
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~*~Kathleen~*~ said:Thanks for all of your input. I do have some seasoned wood coming this week. This isn't my first prom
Whooot freaking hoot
K, don't let the hormones of some of the members make ya be a scardey cat.
Do what ya gotta do as best as you can. I think there is some good info in this thread.
My 2 cents.
BrotherBart said:
I hear ya, and could be wrong, but the stove I saw didn't look like a 3 cu ft stove. I just checked and found the Magnolia 2015 has a fire box of 18.25x 20.75 which is bigger than it looked on the floor. Lets give it an inch over the firebrick or 10" or 3925 cu in.. That puts it squarely in the 2 cu ft territory by my math. Stove is rated at 30,800 btu according to the manual, 65K according to the marketing. At 9.5" x 13" the door opening was not much larger than my mailbox. But maybe this stove is being measured from the glass to the secondary manifold. Seems like sales hype to me, but since our local True Value no longer has them on the floor, I can't get back there with a tape measure and camera. The stove fits in the Austral, Baltic, Legend range of Drolet stoves which are all listed at 3.1 cu ft. Sorry I didn't follow up on it now. Unfortunately I'm many states away from a Tractor Supply store.
http://www.usstove.com/Downloads/Owners Manuals/2015 Manual.pdf
SolarAndWood
Minister of Fire
BeGreen said:
It would be a lot more straightforward if the industry would standardize on something like recommended log length X maximum width attainable with recommended log length X maximum height attainable with recommended log length. And, yes, these maximums need to be with the recommended fire brick in the stove and appropriate safety distances from anything that could reasonably be damaged when loading the stove hundreds of times a year often half asleep. Comparing the #s in the brochures with actually putting a tape measure in the stoves leads one to believe that firebox volume is often calculated by hitting the maximize area button on some modeling program with no consideration for the realities of actually loading the firebox.
Last March I got an Englander 13NC (Summer's Heat) on closeout at Lowes for under $400. I found it online on the Lowe's website and had to drive to the Lowe's in Washington, NC to pick it up. I called the store and put it on my credit card and picked it up the following weekend. You can check for stock at various Lowe's stores on their website.
SolarAndWood said:
Yes, it can be bewildering. If just going by heat output, the Magnolia manual lists EPA nominal 30,800 btus, peak on the website is 65,000. The 3 cu ft PE stoves are listed nominal at 37,500 btus, 97,000btus peak. Their 2 cu ft stoves are rated at 34,600/72,000 btus. If this is essentially with the same load of wood, why the wide discrepancy? So I was surprised to read the Magnolia is listed as a 3 cu ft stove. It just seemed smaller, but evidently I am in error. Oh well, color me confused, nothing new.
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