Econoburn Boiler low prices

Ok here's the scoop from my perspective. In the past 12 hours I have spoken with Mark at Alternative Fuel the supplier of the EB boiler, Kelly at Aqua-Therm the company listing the EB boilers on E-bay, Wade a Forum member from PEI with an EBW-150,And Serge at Valley Sales in New Brunswick who are now carrying the Econoburn. Mark confirmed that they are no longer supplying the EB to Aqua-Therm and Kelly confirmed they were just liquidating stock so the supply is limited to about 8 or 9 boilers.
The Aqua-Therm boiler is selling for $4995 US (WFB-150). For me to get it here to the East Coast of Canada the shipping charges would be $700 US. To get across the border and Canada Customs I have to use a brokerage firm which charges $175. I also have to pay the 13% HST,(TAX) applicable to my Province,(Nova Scotia). I cipher my total cost to around $6,995.00 Canadian. It's not cheap but still seems to be a good deal. For someone in the US the price is a steal.

Earl

PS The boilers are new,crated and carry the factory warranty.

Earl I think thats a deeal . If the warranty is good and everything this is the time.

I'm gonna sleep on it but I am seriously considering buying one.I may have to pick your brain when it comes to the set up.Shouldn't be too bad as I am already set up with remote wood and oil boilers.The water storage can wait a bit but the cost savings on the boiler would pretty much cover that.It was good talking last evening,thanks for the call and support.

Earl

I just purchased an econoburn ebw-150 from aqua therm. If anyone else is thinking of getting one of these and they live in maine or eastern canada you should drop me a line and we could ship them together.

Check to see if the Eonoburns are being shipped from Aqua Therm with all the factory accessories, like the pump, upper limit aqua stat, pressure relief valve, silicone and manual. I heard that they are not shipping them with the sale units.

altheating,EW here under my work login.I received all the aformentioned with my Econoburn from Aqua-Therm.They were excellent to deal with and took care of the shipping as well as finding a reasonable customs brokerage firm to handle the paper work at the border.Check out my thread 'Big Blue Has Arrived'.It's sitting in the shed paitently waiting for spring.My main contact at Aqua-Therm was Kelly Rooney and she was just excellent to deal with.Answered a multitude of e-mail questions as well as phone calls.

Earl (Aka EW)

Where are you in eastern Canada Garth

I have visited this site many times over the last year but did not join until today. I purchased one of the 150 Econoburn today. The shipping to Southwest Virginia was $400 and all of the accessories that comes with it is included.

Thank's Randy,

I look foward to having it shipped on Monday. I now have an oil boiler that I haven't used for four years as I have been using two heat pumps. However our power rate has doubled in the last two years. I have burned wood for several years in another house. I have about 30 acres of woodland so wood is no problem. I will try it with no water storage when I receive it but plan to add storage next year. I am retiring in June so I should have plenty of time to get wood in an keep the Boiler going.

Dan

DanCarbo, if you're going pressurized, there's a feed and supply store up in Staunton, off I-81, that about six months or so ago, had a number of used propane tanks previously utilized for agricultural purposes, going for reasonable prices, including delivery to your door. No mercaptan mess to deal with. Might be worth your while to check them out. These tanks are difficult to locate hereabouts.

Congrats on getting your boiler, and at a great price too.

Mike

Congrats on the new boiler Dan.Keep us posted during the installation and fire up.I will be having mine connected once we are through with winter here which is around June,lol.

Earl

Wantstoburn... it appears that we are getting a good little group of Econoburn owners here on the East coast. We may have to establish a 'support' group.

Earl

Mike,

Thanks for the information about the tanks. I live about in Tazewell County VA about 3.5 hours from Staunton. I will not be passing by Staunton until April, however if I knew that they have tanks available, I would drive up there in my pickup and haul one back. Do you have any information about the name of the agri. business there.

Dan

Earl,

I will post the happenings as I install the Econoburn 150. I will most likely need some information from some of you guys that are experienced with gasification boliers as I have never seen one. I have been reading this site for about a year. I worked as an electrcian and plumber many years ago so I am familiar with basic plumbing and controls. My house now has a small oil boiler, I plumbed it with 2 loops of 1.25 inch copper with baseboard heat about 20 years ago but have not used it for about 4 years. Initially I plan to hook it to the existing plumbing and to do modifications after warm weather.

Thanks for your comments,

Dan

Yes Earl there are lots of econoburns being installed. If anyone needs help I will do what I can there are lots of guys on here that can chime in when you really need help

Dan.

Following is the information you requested, posted last May:

"I found a source for used 1000 gallon pressure tanks in Virginia I thought I’d share. Valley Feed Company in Staunton is selling used 1000 gallon tanks that were used to spray ammonia (NH3) on grain crops. The tanks are identical in appearance to propane tanks and have some added benefits. You dont have to deal with mercaptan. The owner said ammonia absorbs water, so the inside of the tanks are rust free.The tanks have a baffle built into them, I’m guessing to keep the ammonia from sloshing around. The outlet ports are large, several 1.25 inch ports on top and a 2 inch drain opening on the bottom. Mine had two pressure gauges on top, one looks like it might be functional. There is what looks like a one inch dip tube and some smaller ports. And the tanks come mounted on a heavy duty eighteen foot trailer, included in the cost. You can just hook one up to your truck and roll it on out of there. I paid $800 for mine, including the trailer

Ask for the proprietor, Mr. Bob Nutt (that’s his real name), when you call. Their number is 1-800-476-2697 or 1-540-886-2311. They are located near Interstate 81. The tanks vary some in price. I looked at a $700, $800 and a $1000 tank. There were a number more on site. These things are heavy. I think he said 2300 or 2400 lbs. The only drawback on the one I purchased was some surface rust in sections which I have almost finished sanding off before I repaint the tank. The tanks are thick walled and the rust was insignificant relative to the thickness of the tank I thought. The more expensive ones appeared more rust free. The tanks are roughly sixteen feet long, the trailer somewhat longer. The tank has it’s label still, and is rated on the label at 250 psi at 650 degrees." Another site member, Floydian, informed me they are called anhydrous ammonia nurse tanks.

My truck wasn’t big enough to tow it and didn’t have a hitch it then, so he towed it to my house in Botetourt County for an additional fee. I understand he will deliver without the trailer included, maybe for a better price, and then you wouldn't have the trailer to contend with it after you unload. Which reminds me I need to put that on Craig's List soon as the weather clears and snow melts.

Give Mr. Nutt a call Dan. He had quite a few tanks there last May and may still have some left. I really had a tough time running one down until I lucked into one of these. I did have one other potential source for a new 1000 gallon tank, for several hundred dollars more. If you're really get stuck when you begin to look, and want a lead on a new tank, send me an email via this site. Good luck with your installation. It's a steep learning curve if you are doing it yourself and haven't done this type of thing before. You'll find people on this site are tremendously helpful.

Mike

Kind of off topic but does the Econoburn have a exterior hook that can be used to unload it off the back of a truck? I'm expecting delivery in a few days and I don't know anybody with a big enough loader to take it off for me. I do have a 2000 lb. gantry crane that might work depending on how I hook it up to the boiler and the kind of truck it's delivered with. How did you guys move your boiler about?

gorbull, good question as they weigh three quarters of a ton. The instructions that came with mine show a lifting point you access through a plate in the top. You may want to confirm this with the manufacturer before lifting. I paid a local courier to truck it to my place on a truck with a lift gate. The Econoburn comes bolted to a pallet so it's relatively easy to move with a pallet jack or forklift. Be aware that even bolted to the pallet it is top heavy. I had a few tense moments with the lift gate and the pallet jack. Where did you purchase your unit?
Good luck;

Earl

Gorbull, I rented a truck with a lift-gate to bring the boiler from a local plumbing supply's loading dock. Then used a 5000 lb. rated, hand-pulled pallet jack I got off Craigs List to move it from the truck to the lift-gate and then into the garage on the wood pallet it came on. You can rent a pallet jack easily enough. They work remarkably well in moving large weights you couldn't imagine you could pull by hand yourself. Sounds easy, but in reality took a good part of the day to accomplish. Have a come-a-long winch handy if you need to get over bumps or have any uphill stretches like the delivery truck being parked on a slant. My wife's help and encouragement were indispensable. Yes, she's looking over my shoulder right now.

Mike

gorbull said:

Kind of off topic but does the Econoburn have a exterior hook that can be used to unload it off the back of a truck? I'm expecting delivery in a few days and I don't know anybody with a big enough loader to take it off for me. I do have a 2000 lb. gantry crane that might work depending on how I hook it up to the boiler and the kind of truck it's delivered with. How did you guys move your boiler about?

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There is a lifting hook on the top of the unit but it is under the top access panels. I welded a piece of rerod onto a 2" coupling and screwed it onto the outlet on top. My J.D. compact would'nt lift it but I could guide it into place.

The lifting hook looks centered on the unit while using the water outlet on the top is not. You will have to pull the top two access panels to access the hook. Like E.W. and dogwood said --top heavy and a pallet jack will work great. I had a couple of nailbiters with it and my tractor bucket. Take your time---Good luck.

I lifted mine into place using a lifting strap in through the flue and out the door . Worked really well . I had a tow truck lift in onto my truck and had a forklift lift it off. In the basement i just used 2 floor jacks , one in the front and 1 to the side handled it really well. May be top heavy but it takes alot to tip them over. I laid mine on the back on a 2x6 frame to get it down the basement stairs .

gorbull said:

Kind of off topic but does the Econoburn have a exterior hook that can be used to unload it off the back of a truck? I'm expecting delivery in a few days and I don't know anybody with a big enough loader to take it off for me. I do have a 2000 lb. gantry crane that might work depending on how I hook it up to the boiler and the kind of truck it's delivered with. How did you guys move your boiler about?

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My EBW 150 came with a hook on top of the internal steel vessel, and I was able to order it with a removable access plate on the top to make it easier to get to the hook. I borrowed a friend's very large ag tractor with bucket to lift it and lower it into my cellar- and then used a borrowed pallet jack to get it nearly into place, and then a come-along with a big tow strap around the unit's legs to to the very final sliding to the final spot/ angles.

Mike,

I called the Valley Feed Company this morning and had a great conversation with Mr. Bob Nutt, he was very helpful and does have some tanks left. The only ones with a trailer left were $1000 and one without the trailer was $800. His prices are still a good buy acording to what I have been priced locally. If the weather clears I will go there on Friday or one day next week and tow on home. My pickup (F 150) should tow it with no problems. He said the tongue weight is no more than 600 pounds. However they do not connect to a trailer ball but rather have pin as they are designed to tow with a tractor. I will take my farm tag with with me and tow it back. I appreciate the information that you posted very much.

Again Thanks,

Dan