Squiers April Sale!!

I found this on their website.

http://www.squierlumber.com/pdfs/spring-wood-pellet-pricing.pdf

Damn, I called Home and Hearth in Hampton Falls, NH last week. Their "spring price" on Okies is 269...... :-S

Pellet-King said:

Well it isn't a great sale after all..........here is a Email i got from them 3 days ago........ i was asking him why the Okies were so high...they went thru a wholesaler from Arizona...what happened BTU??
Seems O'Malley's the best deal they offer...........

"The wholesaler is in Arizona"….



Yes, we have sold ALL of the Okanagans we bought this past winter….the “new” stuff is warehouse product. We had pretty good luck selling the older product we brought in this past winter (200+ pallets is VERY easy to sell), and it was a good test for us, in that we never sold Okanagans prior to that. We found out people liked them; they are a quality product, and a softwood. We also found out the replacement cost was high, so, when we restocked at a much higher prices, we had to raise our prices.



Our April sale hasn’t mailed yet…we are still working on getting it together, but our website does reflect the upcoming April pricing.

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well, at least someone took the time to answer you, Pellet-King! Although, from looking at the website mentioned above, they really arent "high" when compared to other dealers of Okies in New England....just "high" as compared to their earlier pricing this winter......it pretty much follows what BTU indicated. They indicated they sold out of the "cheaper" product they bought this winter, so, if their cost increased, it would follow that their retail price would also increase.....

well, many pellets these days are sold through marketing reps, as I believe Okies are........and since thats the case, the marketing rep can be anywhere......hey, BTU, you market pellets, where do YOU live?

BTU said:

Lousyweather said:

well, many pellets these days are sold through marketing reps, as I believe Okies are........and since thats the case, the marketing rep can be anywhere......hey, BTU, you market pellets, where do YOU live?

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We manufacture pellets in Kelowna BC, but our head office is located in Vancouver BC. We have sales people in Toronto ON, Atlanta GA and I'm physically located in Phoenix AZ. But I have found the internet, cell phones, fax machines, and land lines to work perfectly in all these places and being able to service a client in Billings MT is just as easy as in Boston MA.
I also market pellets from another mill in BC, one in Alberta and one in WA state.....so the bottom line is that it just doesn't matter where you are located to be able to comfortably be able to do business from just about anywhere today......

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And you do a very fine job

BTW - We have Okies and Dragons for $269.00 per ton and they are in stock. I do have to pay a little more to get them to our warehouse than Squire - we are 50 miles further south. Also Somerset Hardwood for $235.00 per ton.

Steve - 860-779-7500
www.lppellets.com

pelletdude said:

BTU said:

Lousyweather said:

well, many pellets these days are sold through marketing reps, as I believe Okies are........and since thats the case, the marketing rep can be anywhere......hey, BTU, you market pellets, where do YOU live?

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We manufacture pellets in Kelowna BC, but our head office is located in Vancouver BC. We have sales people in Toronto ON, Atlanta GA and I'm physically located in Phoenix AZ. But I have found the internet, cell phones, fax machines, and land lines to work perfectly in all these places and being able to service a client in Billings MT is just as easy as in Boston MA.
I also market pellets from another mill in BC, one in Alberta and one in WA state.....so the bottom line is that it just doesn't matter where you are located to be able to comfortably be able to do business from just about anywhere today......

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And you do a very fine job

BTW - We have Okies and Dragons for $269.00 per ton and they are in stock. I do have to pay a little more to get them to our warehouse than Squire - we are 50 miles further south. Also Somerset Hardwood for $235.00 per ton.

Steve - 860-779-7500
www.lppellets.com

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what are you guys getting for the Turman's, Pelletdude? So, at $259-$269 is a reasonable cost for Okies?


Thanks!

Lousyweather said:

pelletdude said:

BTU said:

Lousyweather said:

well, many pellets these days are sold through marketing reps, as I believe Okies are........and since thats the case, the marketing rep can be anywhere......hey, BTU, you market pellets, where do YOU live?

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We manufacture pellets in Kelowna BC, but our head office is located in Vancouver BC. We have sales people in Toronto ON, Atlanta GA and I'm physically located in Phoenix AZ. But I have found the internet, cell phones, fax machines, and land lines to work perfectly in all these places and being able to service a client in Billings MT is just as easy as in Boston MA.
I also market pellets from another mill in BC, one in Alberta and one in WA state.....so the bottom line is that it just doesn't matter where you are located to be able to comfortably be able to do business from just about anywhere today......

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And you do a very fine job

BTW - We have Okies and Dragons for $269.00 per ton and they are in stock. I do have to pay a little more to get them to our warehouse than Squire - we are 50 miles further south. Also Somerset Hardwood for $235.00 per ton.

Steve - 860-779-7500
www.lppellets.com

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what are you guys getting for the Turman's, Pelletdude? So, at $259-$269 is a reasonable cost for Okies?


Thanks!

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We only have 4 tons of Turmans left and probably won't get them again. My customers are in love with Okies and Somerset and it has been harder to sell Turman - a great pellet but not as hot as the other 2.

$259 269, The price they should be with all the transportation from BC. It is unfortunate that some of the best brands are having a price war in western Ct, a lot cheaper than the lesser quality pellets. It will be difficult for the dealers to move the stock of those pellets. Great for the consumer.

Hope you are watching the price of fuel. It costs $$$ to haul those tons of pellets on the trucks to NE and I would not be surprised to see the prices slowly rise.
They are talking about $4/gal gas this summer. Get your pellets early. (I am not in the business of selling pellets - just reading the tea leaves...)

Already seeing the freight #'s change. It is going to be hard for all of us to stay so low. I think you guys predicting pellet prices rising are right.

pelletdude said:

Already seeing the freight #'s change. It is going to be hard for all of us to stay so low. I think you guys predicting pellet prices rising are right.

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ssshh, dude! First of all, BTU's head will get even bigger than it already is, and youre certain to arouse the ire of the folks who feel that no matter what the costs are, any profit on pellets is bad, that all manufacturers and retailers are Satan, and that the only good price is the lowest one within 500 miles! :cheese:

If we all donated our profits to the prostitute training division of ACORN fund we would not be viewed as evil anymore. Also, LousyWeather, make sure that the owner of your business does not earn more than the forklift driver. If he does, there will be a Czar appointed soon

Franks said:

If we all donated our profits to the prostitute training division of ACORN fund we would not be viewed as evil anymore. Also, LousyWeather, make sure that the owner of your business does not earn more than the forklift driver. If he does, there will be a Czar appointed soon

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Damn Franks...what if the owner IS the forklift driver? Dont I get some kind of Socialist Award for that?

I have said it a few times now, the pellet mills who produce their own raw material ie; O'Malley, Turman, Barefoot, Somerset are the ones who have CONSISTENT, QUALITY pellets at an affordable price. With large amounts of pellets on the ground around the country, these mills are the ones who can lower their prices and move their products, and force the mills who buy their raw material to sit on their product while stove shops stock up on the lower priced products. Just because it is priced lower, DOES not mean it is a crappy pellet!!

I agree, Hotpellet, the cost of a pellet certainly does not mean its a crappy pellet! Its the analysis of the pellet that makes it a crappy pellet. If you dont believe the lab test data, then, its the folks burning it who determine its quality. In actuality, the end-user is the TRUE test of the quality, and they speak of that quality, or lack thereof, with their wallets.

As a "stove shop", we dont stock up on a pellet just because its cheap. What good does it do us to sell a markedly inferior product if we cant sell it, or continually have it returned due to its poor quality?

You also have to factor in that with a few notable exceptions, the mills who produce their own raw material are not very large, and I am not sure that they collectively have the stroke to force the larger mills who buy raw material to just "sit on their product". What you find is that the "cheapie" pellet mills sell out of their production fairly quickly, then have NO product to sell or ship later in the year, since its all committed, which leaves the larger players back in their "catbird" seat. This idea seems to work contrary to the buying decisions of many end-users, who seem to want to sit on the sidelines, cross their fingers, and "hope" that the price will go down as we get later in the year. In reality, it sometimes happens, but more often than not, its these fence sitters who DONT make out, and end up paying more later. I dont see alot of downside in buying early, if one can afford it. Even if there were a price drop, it wouldnt be astronomical, the cumulative savings of a years' pellet useage might amount to a meal out, unless you eat where BTU eats. (sorry , Doug! :lol: )

hotpellet said:

I have said it a few times now, the pellet mills who produce their own raw material ie; O'Malley, Turman, Barefoot, Somerset are the ones who have CONSISTENT, QUALITY pellets at an affordable price. With large amounts of pellets on the ground around the country, these mills are the ones who can lower their prices and move their products, and force the mills who buy their raw material to sit on their product while stove shops stock up on the lower priced products. Just because it is priced lower, DOES not mean it is a crappy pellet!!

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I also agree! There is something about the pellets that have a vary stable fiber source. Even if the cost maybe a bit more at times. Hard to beat the rock solid brands. We can add Anderson and Cubex(Lauzon) to the list.

There maybe some other brands out there we don't know about. There are a few softwoods that are associated with the lumber industry and get there fiber from the same lumber mill. I just don't actually know if they own the lumber mill. But there source is very stable!

just picked a ton of okies for 230.......alright price I guess.....

watrskir said:

just picked a ton of okies for 230.......alright price I guess.....

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Thats an awesome price!

watrskir said:

just picked a ton of okies for 230.......alright price I guess.....

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watrskir, where was this? That's a very good price..Dodges Agway in Hampton Falls is still at $250 a ton...

Chan

agway in hooksette........this winters stock or I would buy 2( I still have a ton and a half from last winter(08) so really dont want to many older pellets for next winter).....there is only 4 left...hurry...dont take mine though, picking it up tomorrow thats already paid for )

i know...i still dont qualify to be a pellet pig with only 2.5 tons and a 3rd in the fall........but I am very efficient...only burned 2 tons and a 1/4 tank of oil this year and was very warm.....NICE