Looking at purchasing an Indoor Wood Boiler
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Singed Eyebrows
Minister of Fire
Bill; They seem to run from about $200.00 to $500.00. Most members use the 500 gallon size. If you are able to stand them upright so much the better, they work well horizontal too, Randy
WoodNotOil
Minister of Fire
Bill Murray said:
Try contacting your local propane dealers and salvage yard to find them. There are a few heating companies that will sell them already modified for use in heating systems. AHONA is one, Smokeless Heat does too. I am sure there are others as well. A propane tank will need some modifications to be used as storage, so weight the cost of buying and modifying yourself against buying one that is already modified. Either way it is still way less money than buying the commercial storage options...
Hunderliggur
Minister of Fire
Bill - I seriously considred one of the flexible tanks or building my own until I looked at the life expectancy of the liners at high (>180F) temps. I think my steel propane tanks will well outlive any liner tank. I had not thought of vertical mounting, just make it is securd VERY well. 2 tons of water in a tank falling over will cause damage.
Northwoodsman
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Bill,Bill Murray said:
These tanks are readily available in northern MI.
Please call me at 231-342-3271 for more info.
Thanks,
NWM
muncybob
Minister of Fire
do any of the boilers have issues when loading wood being positive pressure,
do they smoke when the door is opened, do the fans shut down when the door is opened a little
is there any issue with smoke at any time, door seals, are there any issues with the refrectory tubes on the econoburn
i know that they need to be replaced every so often, how much are they, how hard are they to change. Once a year/five years?
do they smoke when the door is opened, do the fans shut down when the door is opened a little
is there any issue with smoke at any time, door seals, are there any issues with the refrectory tubes on the econoburn
i know that they need to be replaced every so often, how much are they, how hard are they to change. Once a year/five years?
Fred61
Minister of Fire
Bill Murray said:
Most 500gal tanks are 37in x 10ft.
There are a few that are about 44x8ft but they are hard to come by.
I have several 500gal for sale here in west mich.
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muncybob
Minister of Fire
Fred, I'm not sure what has changed on the gaskets as your description seems to fit what are on the doors now(5/8 inch high density fiberglass rope). I don't recall exactly what they said they had changed in that area. The doors are adjustable. I can only speak from a relatively short time but so far so good. The air inlet flap was improved and as long as you keep the gasket clean(part of the weekly cleaning routine with a little soap & water) it seems to work fine. I am impressed with the efficiency though as our temps have been below average this winter and I've used less wood than I expected esp. since some of the oak was not as seasoned (30%)as I had hoped.
Bill, regarding smoke on the WG: I removed the smoke shield as it seemed to get in the way of loading. With it reinstalled I rarely get smoke out the door when loading. It also helps to only load wood when it's basically just hot coals(part of the "learning curve"). The fan on the WG runs continually while in burn mode and shuts off once up to operating temp. The only other smoke issue I had was before I sealed all the seams on the flu pipes. We no longer have any smoke smell in the house...and only a faint smell in the basement where the boiler is located.
Bill, regarding smoke on the WG: I removed the smoke shield as it seemed to get in the way of loading. With it reinstalled I rarely get smoke out the door when loading. It also helps to only load wood when it's basically just hot coals(part of the "learning curve"). The fan on the WG runs continually while in burn mode and shuts off once up to operating temp. The only other smoke issue I had was before I sealed all the seams on the flu pipes. We no longer have any smoke smell in the house...and only a faint smell in the basement where the boiler is located.
Hi, I’m new to gasification (I have fireplace insert in my house) and my house is split level (4 levels) and with insert, I have 80 degree in kitchen but 65 in my master bedroom. So I start looking into gasification boilers (have free wood) and find one person locally selling new Greenwood 100 for $3500 and 200 model for $4500. I have 4000 sq ft house.
Is $3500 are good price for the 100 model unit or I should go to Tarm or EKO?
Thanks.
Is $3500 are good price for the 100 model unit or I should go to Tarm or EKO?
Thanks.
WoodNotOil
Minister of Fire
Andrey
I would do a little more reading here before taking the plunge. I think Greenwood went out of business and if I'm not mistaken they are just a copy of a Seton anyway. Both are built in a different way from downdraft gasifiers like the Tarm and Eko. To size your boiler you will need to do a heatloss calc (http://www.builditsolar.com/References/Calculators/HeatLoss/HeatLoss.htm) and then determine whether you want storage right off or not. If you plan to do storage now or in the future, it is a good idea to oversize the boiler just a little so that you would be able to meet demand and charge storage at the same time. Another way to determine size of boiler and storage is to figure out how much time per day you want to spend burning wood and size both to be the most convenient for you time. There are some here that have several thousand gallons of storage and can light fires whenever their time allows. I would suggest doing the heatloss calc, reading more threads, and then posting your own thread with the information about your situation and ask for suggestions then. Good luck!
I would do a little more reading here before taking the plunge. I think Greenwood went out of business and if I'm not mistaken they are just a copy of a Seton anyway. Both are built in a different way from downdraft gasifiers like the Tarm and Eko. To size your boiler you will need to do a heatloss calc (http://www.builditsolar.com/References/Calculators/HeatLoss/HeatLoss.htm) and then determine whether you want storage right off or not. If you plan to do storage now or in the future, it is a good idea to oversize the boiler just a little so that you would be able to meet demand and charge storage at the same time. Another way to determine size of boiler and storage is to figure out how much time per day you want to spend burning wood and size both to be the most convenient for you time. There are some here that have several thousand gallons of storage and can light fires whenever their time allows. I would suggest doing the heatloss calc, reading more threads, and then posting your own thread with the information about your situation and ask for suggestions then. Good luck!
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