I would like to share with you some info I discovered while considering buying an Eco Boilier from New Horizon Corp out of Sutton West Virginia. (www.newhorizoncorp.com). The units are advertised as UL certified with Omni Test Labs out of Portland Oregon, so that you can have them installed in certain configurations according to Codes. THIS IS FALSE! The UL certification paperwork was started but never finished therefore if you install the stove and get Code Enforcement to inspect you will be required to take the stove out (depending on your set-up). Some homeowner's insurance will not cover any damage done to your home if the unit isn't properly UL certified also.
Warning: Questionable UL certification - EKO
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webbie
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I would suggest that folks email or call New Horizon and ask for clarification - if this is a concern in their area.
It would be nice to have an explanation right from them.
I saw one link on their web site which said the boilers were NOT UL approved, but you are correct that the front of the owners manual does state it.
It would be nice to have an explanation right from them.
I saw one link on their web site which said the boilers were NOT UL approved, but you are correct that the front of the owners manual does state it.
I thought UL just covered the electrical or controller components? ASME is the pressure vessel listing. Electric boiler have UL listing, and often the ASME H stamp on the vessel.
It looks like the unit has a CE stamp and that may satisfy some code bodies? Instead of the ASME and or UL.
hr
It looks like the unit has a CE stamp and that may satisfy some code bodies? Instead of the ASME and or UL.
hr
Northwoodsman
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UL and ASME are two totally different certification agencies/requirements.
The UL listing is performed on each individual electrical component and also on the complete boiler itself (thus you will see a UL listing for solid fuel burning device in addition to UL listing on each of the individual electrical components).
The ASME certification does not have anything to do with electrical but rather with the boiler construction itself. If a hot water (not stream) boiler is designed to operate at pressures less than 160 psi than the boiler needs to have the H stamp.
Where all this gets "muddy" is with the European EN303-5 boiler spec (it is very similar and has virtually the same intent as the ASME code specs).
Thus, that is why some states (and even Canada) are starting to talk about accepting the EN303-5 via. an exemption/waiver.
Obviously, since the Europeans have been making pressurized gasifiaction boilers much longer than the US manufactures and the fact that none of these are "blowing up" in Europe, it only makes sense for the US to adopt the EN303-5 specification. After all, these gasification boilers are at least 2x as efficicent and much less poluting then the OWB's that are so prevalent in the US.
NWM
The UL listing is performed on each individual electrical component and also on the complete boiler itself (thus you will see a UL listing for solid fuel burning device in addition to UL listing on each of the individual electrical components).
The ASME certification does not have anything to do with electrical but rather with the boiler construction itself. If a hot water (not stream) boiler is designed to operate at pressures less than 160 psi than the boiler needs to have the H stamp.
Where all this gets "muddy" is with the European EN303-5 boiler spec (it is very similar and has virtually the same intent as the ASME code specs).
Thus, that is why some states (and even Canada) are starting to talk about accepting the EN303-5 via. an exemption/waiver.
Obviously, since the Europeans have been making pressurized gasifiaction boilers much longer than the US manufactures and the fact that none of these are "blowing up" in Europe, it only makes sense for the US to adopt the EN303-5 specification. After all, these gasification boilers are at least 2x as efficicent and much less poluting then the OWB's that are so prevalent in the US.
NWM
I hear of so few problems with the Eko I don't even care if it passes a test. If there was a problem we would know about it right on this sight.
stee6043
Minister of Fire
I picked up my EKO in 2008 and it did in fact state they were "pursuing" UL listing on the documentation that came with it. Are you sure they haven't completed the work required to be UL?
As stated above I think it would be best to ask New Horizon. If they are not UL yet I bet you will not find an EKO boiler with a UL sticker on it. If their manual says "UL/CSA approved" it could be a documentation problem.
As the poster above says - these are great boilers and I'm betting there is a simple explanation to this UL issue...
PS - That's quite a first post, by the way....
As stated above I think it would be best to ask New Horizon. If they are not UL yet I bet you will not find an EKO boiler with a UL sticker on it. If their manual says "UL/CSA approved" it could be a documentation problem.
As the poster above says - these are great boilers and I'm betting there is a simple explanation to this UL issue...
PS - That's quite a first post, by the way....
altheating
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No matter which lab the manufacturer (or importer) uses, they are still tested to the applicable requirements of the following criteria for the US and Canada:
UL 391-06 Solid Fuel and Cembination Fuel Central and Supplementary Furnaces
UL 726-06 Oil Fired Boiler Assembies
CSA B366.1-M91
Here is the link to all of the solid fueled appliances that OMNI has listed. Note that the ‘mark’ would be OMNI’s not UL’s. Omni test to the standards set by UL and CSA.
http://www.omni-test.com/listing_di...andard=b366&imageField;.x=39&imageField;.y=20
Econoburn’s Warnock-Hersey Internationsl (WHI) certification is through Intertek Labs in Middleton WI.
UL 391-06 Solid Fuel and Cembination Fuel Central and Supplementary Furnaces
UL 726-06 Oil Fired Boiler Assembies
CSA B366.1-M91
Here is the link to all of the solid fueled appliances that OMNI has listed. Note that the ‘mark’ would be OMNI’s not UL’s. Omni test to the standards set by UL and CSA.
http://www.omni-test.com/listing_di...andard=b366&imageField;.x=39&imageField;.y=20
Econoburn’s Warnock-Hersey Internationsl (WHI) certification is through Intertek Labs in Middleton WI.
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