Are these both poplar??

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One of these pics is from a post on here. The other is of wood I cut at my farm from a downed tree. Are they both poplar? The concensus on the pic from the site was that it was poplar and I thought that's what mine was but it sure looks different, especially the inside. Bark looks similar. Is it an area thing or are they different types?

Rob
 

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Tulip popular, about 18mbtu per cord
 
Picture from here is on the right, it was either tulip poplar(not the same as aspen/poplar) or maple.(I still think maple) I think the wood you have pictured is cottonwood, it typically has a dark heart wood like that. If it's aspen/poplar it's not the same as tulip poplar.
 
rdust said:
Picture from here is on the right, it was either tulip poplar(not the same as aspen/poplar) or maple.(I still think maple) I think the wood you have pictured is cottonwood, it typically has a dark heart wood like that. If it's aspen/poplar it's not the same as tulip poplar.
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You dont rember this thread from just a couple days ago...lol the one on the left has been cut longer than the one on the right.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/57082/

Big growth rings as well
 
smokinjay said:
You dont rember this thread from just a couple days ago...lol the one on the left has been cut longer than the one on the right.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/57082/

Big growth rings as well
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I remember the thread, as I stated in my first post the wood on the right in this thread is from the thread you posted the link to.(yellow tinted picture) The two pictures posted in this thread are not the same species. I think the wood KYrob has is more likely poplar or cottonwood not tulip poplar.

KYrob, did the wood stink bad when you cut it?
 
rdust said:
smokinjay said:
You dont rember this thread from just a couple days ago...lol the one on the left has been cut longer than the one on the right.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/57082/

Big growth rings as well
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I remember the thread, as I stated in my first post the wood on the right in this thread is from the thread you posted the link to.(yellow tinted picture) The two pictures posted in this thread are not the same species. I think the wood KYrob has is more likely poplar or cottonwood not tulip poplar.

KYrob, did the wood stink bad when you cut it?
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Tulip changes from white to yellow pretty quick then changes to more of a grayish color as it ages. Split that dude and you will see more. The older trunks will have the purple and green strips in it. (hartwood)
 
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
 

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i haven't seen a cottonwood since my dendrology class back in college, so i coul be wrong, but it looks like tulip to me, especially that split piece
 
In your original post, the top photo with the brown heartwood is definitely not Tulip Poplar. The bottom one may be, but I'd want to see a split.

In the photo with the split wood, that is definitely not Tulip IMO.

It is firewood, however. Season it, burn it. Heck, it may turn out to be better wood than Tulip anyway.
 
Looks like I will need to go out back and take some Pic's of tulip....This One been down for awhile is the difference here and a different part of the tree.
 
KYrob said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
 
FLINT said:
KYrob said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
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ok I will shut up after this! DID YOU SEE THE GROWTH RINGS.......lol
 
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
KYrob said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
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ok I will shut up after this! DID YOU SEE THE GROWTH RINGS.......lol
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hmm, not sure what you mean about the growth rings. the wood looked a little stringy in his second pic, when combined with the darker heartwood, looked like hickory. i really really don't think its tulip poplar. may be some kind of actual poplar (like cottonwood or something). i'm not super worried about it though - wood can be super hard to ID from just looking at a block of it in a picture - and lots of trees have furrowed bark like that.
 
FLINT said:
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
KYrob said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
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ok I will shut up after this! DID YOU SEE THE GROWTH RINGS.......lol
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hmm, not sure what you mean about the growth rings. the wood looked a little stringy in his second pic, when combined with the darker heartwood, looked like hickory. i really really don't think its tulip poplar. may be some kind of actual poplar (like cottonwood or something). i'm not super worried about it though - wood can be super hard to ID from just looking at a block of it in a picture - and lots of trees have furrowed bark like that.
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The very first pic of it in a round form the growth rings are very large like a tulip......The bark looks a lot like ash put those to together and it spells tulip...many othere reasons as well but thats the dead give away.
 
I don't think there is a chance that the pic on the left is Cottonwood. 1. Cottonwood bark on a round that size would be deeply fissured. 2. I've never seen cottonwood with heartwood that dark.
 
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
KYrob said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
Click to expand...

ok I will shut up after this! DID YOU SEE THE GROWTH RINGS.......lol
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hmm, not sure what you mean about the growth rings. the wood looked a little stringy in his second pic, when combined with the darker heartwood, looked like hickory. i really really don't think its tulip poplar. may be some kind of actual poplar (like cottonwood or something). i'm not super worried about it though - wood can be super hard to ID from just looking at a block of it in a picture - and lots of trees have furrowed bark like that.
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The very first pic of it in a round form the growth rings are very large like a tulip......The bark looks a lot like ash put those to together and it spells tulip...many othere reasons as well but thats the dead give away.
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go back and click on that picture and look real close - there are bands of rings that are slightly different colors, but within each band you can see many small rings - so the rings are actually quite small.

again, I have no intention of starting an argument over this - I know you know a lot about trees and cutting wood and I'm not questioning that. I just don't happen to think its tulip and you do, and I'm fine with that.

:)
 
FLINT said:
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
smokinjay said:
FLINT said:
KYrob" date="1279890695 said:
No bad smell when cutting. The pic is of a limb of the tree. The base was probably 34+ inches. I haven't started cutting the main trunk yet. The tree fell about 1.5 years ago during a big ice storm. Here's a pic of it split.

Thanks,
Rob
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its not tulip poplar


from your picture with the split pieces, it really looks like hickory to me. is it really heavy?
Click to expand...

ok I will shut up after this! DID YOU SEE THE GROWTH RINGS.......lol
Click to expand...


hmm, not sure what you mean about the growth rings. the wood looked a little stringy in his second pic, when combined with the darker heartwood, looked like hickory. i really really don't think its tulip poplar. may be some kind of actual poplar (like cottonwood or something). i'm not super worried about it though - wood can be super hard to ID from just looking at a block of it in a picture - and lots of trees have furrowed bark like that.
Click to expand...

The very first pic of it in a round form the growth rings are very large like a tulip......The bark looks a lot like ash put those to together and it spells tulip...many othere reasons as well but thats the dead give away.
Click to expand...

go back and click on that picture and look real close - there are bands of rings that are slightly different colors, but within each band you can see many small rings - so the rings are actually quite small.

again, I have no intention of starting an argument over this - I know you know a lot about trees and cutting wood and I'm not questioning that. I just don't happen to think its tulip and you do, and I'm fine with that.
lol its all good
:)
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I cut down some hybrid popular that was dark inside like the one on the left, it was really wet inside as well, the tree was about half dead and to me the inside looked like the beginings of rot.

It really stank as well but it was near a septic field so it could have been drawing moisture up from that, perhaps many of those trees that smell so bad are because of what there getting the water from??
 
Thanks for the answers guys. The tree had been down for about a year but the rounds was very heavy. I posted about the weight of them a few months ago. Also, the rounds split very easy. I was cutting on the tree cause I thought it was ash and kinda laid off after I got to thinking it was poplar. Still not 100% sure what it is. I do know there is still a cord or more left of it but it is covered in nettle weed this time of year and I am not getting in that stuff. Will probably cut more of it this winter if what I have now burns OK. It is drying nicely. Here's a pic of some of it stacked and a closer pic of a split..
 

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KYrob said:
Thanks for the answers guys. The tree had been down for about a year but the rounds was very heavy. I posted about the weight of them a few months ago. Also, the rounds split very easy. I was cutting on the tree cause I thought it was ash and kinda laid off after I got to thinking it was poplar. Still not 100% sure what it is. I do know there is still a cord or more left of it but it is covered in nettle weed this time of year and I am not getting in that stuff. Will probably cut more of it this winter if what I have now burns OK. It is drying nicely. Here's a pic of some of it stacked and a closer pic of a split..
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Great Pic's sure could be pignut hickory,"dont sure on the tulip NOW" Down for a year and still holding that kind of moisture really makes it more confusing...Was there any nuts on the ground around this tree when cutting? The dark wood is turning light, tulip would be turning yellow.
 
Never thought about hickory as I always think of shagbark. Got to looking at some bitternut hickory and am almost positive that's what it is. I always find small nuts all over that area as well as several drainages on my farm. Several of the pics show trees that branch out just like this tree did. I'm kinda excited again to get after that tree soon as the nettle weed dies out. Thanks for the help guys.

Rob
 
KYrob said:
Never thought about hickory as I always think of shagbark. Got to looking at some bitternut hickory and am almost positive that's what it is. I always find small nuts all over that area as well as several drainages on my farm. Several of the pics show trees that branch out just like this tree did. I'm kinda excited again to get after that tree soon as the nettle weed dies out. Thanks for the help guys.

Rob
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I always think shag as well but after those pic's much differnt look at it.
 
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