OWB Stereotypes

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Piker

Minister of Fire
Oct 6, 2008
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We're displaying at the Crawford County Fair here in Northwestern PA this week, and I thought I would share a disturbing conversation I had with a guy from the booth next door. It was actually the first conversation I had here with anyone about the boilers... on the very first day.

Sooo... I'm just getting set up and this guy walks over to me and starts asking about the boilers. I start to explain the process of wood gasification, secondary combustion, thermal storage, etc., and he seems pretty interested at first. Then he begins to comment on his outdoor wood boiler and how much he likes it... and that's ok... lots of people have them and are very satisfied with them. But then... then he starts telling me all about why he loves it so much, and all the different things he can burn in it like 20 cord of green wood per year, garbage, dirty diapers, tires, and the occasional deer carcass. His buddy standing next to him actually pointed to the Scandtec Solo Plus we have on display and said "you'd be hard pressed to even get a deer carcass in that little firebox."

Really? Are you serious?

I kid you not... that's exactly what he said... and I know where this guy lives... and he does have neighbors who have got to be affected by this. It's this type of attitude and mindset that ruins the good name of wood burning for all of us. The problem is, this isn't even just about someone being ignorant or uneducated about the fact that better or cleaner systems exist... it's just sheer lack of respect for your neighbor. And what he doesn't realize, or maybe he does, is that what he's doing, even though he is likely in the minority of wood burners, just fuels the agenda for more regulation on all of us.

what do you do?

cheers.
 
Ya, What kind of boilers are you sellin that you can't get a deer carcass in? lol. The OWB people have brought all the regs on themselves, Randy
 
Piker said:
he starts telling me all about why he loves it so much, and all the different things he can burn in it like 20 cord of green wood per year, garbage, dirty diapers, tires, and the occasional deer carcass. His buddy standing next to him actually pointed to the Scandtec Solo Plus we have on display and said "you'd be hard pressed to even get a deer carcass in that little firebox."

cheers.

Sounds like your talking about West Michigan. I've had that conversation before with others and all I can do is shake my head sometimes.
 
He wasn't trying to convince anyone but himself. 20 cords of wood will buy a lot of diapers.
 
btuser said:
He wasn't trying to convince anyone but himself. 20 cords of wood will buy a lot of diapers.

Or trash removal !
 
It never ceases to amaze me the things you'll see stacked next to OWB's out on the "country" around here. Furniture, garabge, small farm animals.

I know more than one person with an OWB that refuses to split anything smaller than 8-10" diameter. What a waste of wood...
 
Piker, Don't forget the tires, baler twine, books, magazines and all of the beaver carcasses. Your conversation sounds like some of those we experianced at the Woodsmen's show last weekend! One particular fellow was so happy with his OWB and the fact that he ONLY burned 50 cord for his 2500 sq ft ranch house. And that included my domestic hot water too, he exclaimed!
 
altheating said:
Piker, Don't forget the tires, baler twine, books, magazines and all of the beaver carcasses. Your conversation sounds like some of those we experianced at the Woodsmen's show last weekend! One particular fellow was so happy with his OWB and the fact that he ONLY burned 50 cord for his 2500 sq ft ranch house. And that included my domestic hot water too, he exclaimed!

i am assuming from your neck of the woods that your talking about face cords... around here we talk about full cords. my guy's 20 full cord beats your guys 50 face cords...

I WIN!

LOL. ;-P

Have a good day everyone.

cheers
 
Singed Eyebrows said:
The OWB people have brought all the regs on themselves

Frankly I find this blanket statement irritating. I don't burn deer carcasses, tires, trash, etc. in my OWB. Clean, dry, split wood.

There are idiots in all groups of people. They don't represent everyone.
 
juddspaintballs said:
Singed Eyebrows said:
The OWB people have brought all the regs on themselves

Frankly I find this blanket statement irritating. I don't burn deer carcasses, tires, trash, etc. in my OWB. Clean, dry, split wood.

There are idiots in all groups of people. They don't represent everyone.
I was sure everyone could understand that I meant the poluters. Agreed, there are idiots all over, Randy
 
Beaver carcasses???!!! What a waste of bear bait. I have burned a few times an ounce or two at a time of drain oil in my Eko 25. Does that count?
 
ihookem said:
Beaver carcasses???!!! What a waste of bear bait. I have burned a few times an ounce or two at a time of drain oil in my Eko 25. Does that count?
Before I get too upset, was it 10/30 or 10/40? Randy
 
I've chucked a dead rodent or two into my Econoburn once I had a good bed of coals going :)

But I join in the frowning upon the burning of things that have no place as fuel- in addition to the basic unpleasantness of the smoke, burning things like plastic or rubber is a great way to generate a lot of carcinogenic and mutagenic compounds.
 
I have burned a few times an ounce or two at a time of drain oil in my Eko 25. Does that count?

Now I realize this is probably like bringing up the subject of underwear stains but what would be wrong with burning crankcase drain oil in a fully warmed up gassifier? Dripped in at a slow rate onto the wood and coals and boiling off from there into a well oxygenated incandescent afterburner chamber why wouldn't the oil burn as well as in any EPA approved waste oil burner?
I'm talking about burning it at a rate that wouldn't even require an adjustment to the air settings. You could dispose of a fair amount of oil at a drip rate over the several hours of a single burn and should be able to keep up with the disposal problems of a large farm operation (with all those diesels) over a winter.

Get some heat back out of what would otherwise be a waste product and do it in a fashion that wouldn't be measurably polluting. Maybe.
 
local waste oil burner i saw puts out blackish smoke. dunno how "nasty" it is but crankcase oil has metal & detergents in it. that black smoke will end up as blackening the snow on the ground
 
All my waste motor oil goes into my multifuel M35A2. I can't imagine dripping a little oil into a gassifier would produce more "bad stuff" than the exhaust of my multifuel engine (spec'd and built for the US Govt.).
 
I never noticed a negative effect of a few ounces of oil. I wasn't even going to mention it here cause we do have some real purists here. I can't imagine it being much worse than wood. I love wood but it is some nasty stuff. I had a wasp nest in my small shed that stores my Eko25. I fixed them by leaving the door open 5 min. It got smokey enough to kill them in 10 min. The stuff is toxic.
 
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