Cut and Burn

  • Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment.

    We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues.

    We promote the EFFICIENT, RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN and SAFE use of all fuels, whether renewable or fossil.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Lumber-Jack

Minister of Fire
Dec 29, 2008
2,007
Beautiful British Columbia
Well I've read and seen pictures of how Quads and many others out East get there wood, so I decided to post my own thread of our first wood gathering outing of the year out here in BC. Rather than just post pictures I made a little video of our outing since I had recorded some video with my camera anyway.
The first step was to secure a BC Firewood permit which is easy to obtain simply by downloading the PDF file on this web site. BC Firewood permit The purpose of that permit is mostly to make people aware of the rules of cutting firewood on crown land, the permit itself cost nothing.
After getting lunch and all the necessary equipment loaded into the truck we drove the 30 km. (18 miles) up the Ashnola river to a place where there are plenty of dead standing Lodgepole Pine and picked a small grove of dead trees and started cutting. I cut the trees down one at a time and try to get them to overlap each other and limb them after they are on the ground, but before bucking them into rounds. By limbing right away and overlapping them it makes bucking them up much easier because they are up off the ground (the top ones anyway).
Fortunately I have two young Woodsmen to help me load the rounds into the truck, so the whole process goes along pretty quickly. We even had time to get some pictures and video of a little bird that didn't seem to be afraid of us, in fact at one point I was afraid he was going to land on my chainsaw while I was cutting.
I checked the wood with my moisture meter an it was between 5% and 25% (as usual), which is pretty much what I expected as these beetle killed Pine dry out quite nicely around here after a few years. The wood is ready to burn and I'll be burning it this winter. That is one of the advantages of burning this Lodgepole pine, that and the long straight trunks make for easy cutting with no twisted or crotched wood pieces to deal with.
Near the end of the video you'll see 3 big logs that someone, probably from the parks department, cut down and wrote "free wood" on so people would come and cut it up and take it away. I might try cutting some of that up next time we head up there.

 
Nice wood and video! You call public land 'crown ' land? Here all land is owned and a lot owned by the government through the Forestry Commission. We can get permits but no chainsaws allowed and only for wood down. Not worth effort.

Different culture here! I am constantly asked for wood from my land but funnily enough they ask for it from my log stores and never offer to do the work to get it to them!

Simple rule for my friends is 'NEVER ask me for wood!!!!!!'

Thanks for sharing,

Dave
 
I know there are folks who DO burn Pine, but I wonder about that. I thought Pine was more sappy than most, and therefore not a great wood to burn if you like keeping your chimney clean? Is it the "dead wood" factor that makes a difference?

-Soupy1957
 
Thanks for posting that vid...really enjoyed it.
 
Carbon_Liberator nice video, looks like everyone plus the bird had a good time.


zap
 
soupy1957 said:
I know there are folks who DO burn Pine, but I wonder about that. I thought Pine was more sappy than most, and therefore not a great wood to burn if you like keeping your chimney clean? Is it the "dead wood" factor that makes a difference?

-Soupy1957

It's the 'Dryness Factor' that makes a difference. Creosote is formed from the excess mositure in burned wood.....any species. Dry pine is just as clean burning as dry oak, just fewer BTU's per split.
 
ChillyGator said:
soupy1957 said:
I know there are folks who DO burn Pine, but I wonder about that. I thought Pine was more sappy than most, and therefore not a great wood to burn if you like keeping your chimney clean? Is it the "dead wood" factor that makes a difference?

-Soupy1957

It's the 'Dryness Factor' that makes a difference. Creosote is formed from the excess mositure in burned wood.....any species. Dry pine is just as clean burning as dry oak, just fewer BTU's per split.

Oh Soupy . . . I thought you knew by now . . . it's just like ChillyGator says . . . it is how well seasoned the wood is and how you run the stove that determines how much creosote you get in the chimney . . . not the pitch and sap.

Now about the sap . . . standing dead pine left for a few months to a year doesn't have a whole lot of pitch to mess up your hands . . . and as mentioned . . . once dry it is good to go into the stove without fear of causing an excessive amount of creosote to build up . . . or baldness.
 
Jake, if are you telling me my receding hair line is not due to my wood burning practices, then I'm at a lose as to what could be causing it?
Hmmm? :roll:
 
Carbon_Liberator said:
Jake, if are you telling me my receding hair line is not do to my wood burning practices, then I'm at a lose as to what could be causing it?
Hmmm? :roll:

Aliens with their mind probes . . . it has to be aliens with mind probes . . . at least that's why I think I am losing my hair.

Need proof . . . one of our well known members here has posted pics of a dog wearing a tin foil hat and the dog has all of his hair . . . proving that it is the aliens with their mind probes. ;)
 
Carbon_Liberator said:
Well I've read and seen pictures of how Quads and many others out East get there wood, so I decided to post my own thread of our first wood gathering outing of the year out here in BC. Rather than just post pictures I made a little video of our outing since I had recorded some video with my camera anyway.
The first step was to secure a BC Firewood permit which is easy to obtain simply by downloading the PDF file on this web site. BC Firewood permit The purpose of that permit is mostly to make people aware of the rules of cutting firewood on crown land, the permit itself cost nothing.
After getting lunch and all the necessary equipment loaded into the truck we drove the 30 km. (18 miles) up the Ashnola river to a place where there are plenty of dead standing Lodgepole Pine and picked a small grove of dead trees and started cutting. I cut the trees down one at a time and try to get them to overlap each other and limb them after they are on the ground, but before bucking them into rounds. By limbing right away and overlapping them it makes bucking them up much easier because they are up off the ground (the top ones anyway).
Fortunately I have two young Woodsmen to help me load the rounds into the truck, so the whole process goes along pretty quickly. We even had time to get some pictures and video of a little bird that didn't seem to be afraid of us, in fact at one point I was afraid he was going to land on my chainsaw while I was cutting.
I checked the wood with my moisture meter an it was between 5% and 25% (as usual), which is pretty much what I expected as these beetle killed Pine dry out quite nicely around here after a few years. The wood is ready to burn and I'll be burning it this winter. That is one of the advantages of burning this Lodgepole pine, that and the long straight trunks make for easy cutting with no twisted or crotched wood pieces to deal with.
Near the end of the video you'll see 3 big logs that someone, probably from the parks department, cut down and wrote "free wood" on so people would come and cut it up and take it away. I might try cutting some of that up next time we head up there.
Very nice! Wow, with dead pine that dry laying around, it's no wonder the forest fires are huge!
 
soupy1957 said:
I know there are folks who DO burn Pine, but I wonder about that. I thought Pine was more sappy than most, and therefore not a great wood to burn if you like keeping your chimney clean? Is it the "dead wood" factor that makes a difference?

-Soupy1957

BLIMP style: excess moisture = creosote, excess sap = sticky hands
 
Pagey said:
BLIMP style: excess moisture = creosote, excess sap = sticky hands

excess water in sap = needs more time to season than sapless would, duh...

Hey... this BLIMPese is a fun language. %-P
 
quads said:
Very nice! Wow, with dead pine that dry laying around, it's no wonder the forest fires are huge!
Dry is right, in fact they just lifted the wood cutting restriction and campfire ban just a few weeks ago. Even so, the wood permit requires you to carry a fire extinguisher and shovel with you at all times when cutting firewood.
Mind you on this particular day we cut our day short because it started to rain. lol
I wish I had more time to get out there again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
Status
Not open for further replies.