Which stove for a 12" hearth?

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So, you can't just buy that Osburn and install it yourself?
Were you being sarcastic about cheapening things up being frowned upon? Cause I think there's a LOT of cheap b*stids in this forum! (and I mean that in the nicest, most complimentary way!)
The only thing folks jump on out here as far as being cheap, is when folks disregard safety and code in favor of thrift. You can do a safe install pretty cheaply,
You can probably get a liner kit for something like $500 or $600, so that with the Osburn wouldn't get you terribly far over your budget.
But fireplace is good too....
 
tickbitty said:
So, you can't just buy that Osburn and install it yourself?
Were you being sarcastic about cheapening things up being frowned upon? Cause I think there's a LOT of cheap b*stids in this forum! (and I mean that in the nicest, most complimentary way!)
The only thing folks jump on out here as far as being cheap, is when folks disregard safety and code in favor of thrift. You can do a safe install pretty cheaply,
You can probably get a liner kit for something like $500 or $600, so that with the Osburn wouldn't get you terribly far over your budget.
But fireplace is good too....

See I didn't think I had to run a liner up the entire chimney before this thread...I just thought I could connect the stove pipe to the flue and call it a day, but then that WOULD be compromising on safety which I won't do.

I was told I needed to buy insulation, and a few other parts aside from just the liner. Plus, although I've seen it done several times in person, I wouldn't trust myself to jump up on the roof and start doing it.

Thanks!

-Emt1581
 
emt1581 said:
tickbitty said:
So, you can't just buy that Osburn and install it yourself?
Were you being sarcastic about cheapening things up being frowned upon? Cause I think there's a LOT of cheap b*stids in this forum! (and I mean that in the nicest, most complimentary way!)
The only thing folks jump on out here as far as being cheap, is when folks disregard safety and code in favor of thrift. You can do a safe install pretty cheaply,
You can probably get a liner kit for something like $500 or $600, so that with the Osburn wouldn't get you terribly far over your budget.
But fireplace is good too....

See I didn't think I had to run a liner up the entire chimney before this thread...I just thought I could connect the stove pipe to the flue and call it a day, but then that WOULD be compromising on safety which I won't do.

I was told I needed to buy insulation, and a few other parts aside from just the liner. Plus, although I've seen it done several times in person, I wouldn't trust myself to jump up on the roof and start doing it.

Thanks!

-Emt1581

I dont think insulating is as important as just a full liner. This is a minimum way to stay on top of easy cleaning.
 
Hi,
Keep in mind that there’s a 30% Federal Tax Credit for high efficiency units. If you buy a brand new unit (the used Osburn, even if high efficiency won’t qualify), you can not only save 30% of the cost of the unit, but also on all the other parts (pipe, chimney, liner, etc.. even labor and installation), and this up to $1500. This may be a great incentive to get you going this year, since in order to use the tax credit, you need have everything installed by December 31st.
The Century unit you’re looking at the Northern Tool website does qualify for the tax credit. Certificate of Qualification are available at manufacturers websites. Regards,
 
Geppetto83 said:
Hi,
Keep in mind that there’s a 30% Federal Tax Credit for high efficiency units. If you buy a brand new unit (the used Osburn, even if high efficiency won’t qualify), you can not only save 30% of the cost of the unit, but also on all the other parts (pipe, chimney, liner, etc.. even labor and installation), and this up to $1500. This may be a great incentive to get you going this year, since in order to use the tax credit, you need have everything installed by December 31st.
The Century unit you’re looking at the Northern Tool website does qualify for the tax credit. Certificate of Qualification are available at manufacturers websites. Regards,

I know I'd only be paying $1700 up front AND would get $500 back credit-wise...but I just don't have $1700 to put out right now. I think I mentioned it earlier but I'm having a heat pump water heater put in and that thing is $3000 installed.

Next year after we sell our current home, I'll buy a nice setup for up in the living room, and it'll suck that I don't get the 30% back but hopefully prices will drop a little to compensate. But right now I'll have plenty of wood to keep the fireplace going on cold nights and we sleep 2 feet in front of it... so we should stay toasty warm with little or no electrical usage.

-Emt1581
 
emt1581 said:
Geppetto83 said:
Hi,
Keep in mind that there’s a 30% Federal Tax Credit for high efficiency units. If you buy a brand new unit (the used Osburn, even if high efficiency won’t qualify), you can not only save 30% of the cost of the unit, but also on all the other parts (pipe, chimney, liner, etc.. even labor and installation), and this up to $1500. This may be a great incentive to get you going this year, since in order to use the tax credit, you need have everything installed by December 31st.
The Century unit you’re looking at the Northern Tool website does qualify for the tax credit. Certificate of Qualification are available at manufacturers websites. Regards,

I know I'd only be paying $1700 up front AND would get $500 back credit-wise...but I just don't have $1700 to put out right now. I think I mentioned it earlier but I'm having a heat pump water heater put in and that thing is $3000 installed.

Next year after we sell our current home, I'll buy a nice setup for up in the living room, and it'll suck that I don't get the 30% back but hopefully prices will drop a little to compensate. But right now I'll have plenty of wood to keep the fireplace going on cold nights and we sleep 2 feet in front of it... so we should stay toasty warm with little or no electrical usage.

-Emt1581

I understand. The only « inside industry » information I can give you, is that prizes really didn’t went up because of the tax credit, so I don’t think they are going down at all next year. Also, after 2010 year with relatively low oil prices (compared to 2008 for example), if the oil prices in 2011 go up, expect stoves to follow them up. Also, keep in mind that adding an Insert is a nice investment, is going to allow to sell your house for more (at least the total cost of it if not more) plus you’re saving close to 500$ with the tax credit. It is a win-win situation. Best of lucks!
 
emt1581 said:
But right now I'll have plenty of wood to keep the fireplace going on cold nights and we sleep 2 feet in front of it... so we should stay toasty warm with little or no electrical usage.

So you do have wood? I thought you didnt in your other threads and where concerned about moisture content from the vendor's to burn it this year.
 
north of 60 said:
emt1581 said:
But right now I'll have plenty of wood to keep the fireplace going on cold nights and we sleep 2 feet in front of it... so we should stay toasty warm with little or no electrical usage.

So you do have wood? I thought you didnt in your other threads and where concerned about moisture content from the vendor's to burn it this year.

It's being delivered tomorrow.

-Emt1581
 
emt1581 said:
I know I'd only be paying $1700 up front AND would get $500 back credit-wise...but I just don't have $1700 to put out right now. I think I mentioned it earlier but I'm having a heat pump water heater put in and that thing is $3000 installed.

-Emt1581

Just out of curiosity.. why is your water heater install so expensive? There is an electric water heater there now? The new one uses the same or less power than the existing all electric.. (all the ones I looked at the specs of were 240v 30A or less) so the circuit that is already there is reusable. I note that you feel you need an 80 gallon water heater.. we have 2 adults home full time, and friends/family/etc frequently, dish washer, washing machine etc, and have never run out of hot water with a 50 gallon unit. The GE unit at Lowe's is very highly rated, and on sale right now for less than $1400. The install is no different than a standard water heater, two water connections and 1 electrical. Almost any monkey can do it. That would free up $1600 in your budget. As someone posted above, many on here are cheap, but more to the point, many on here desire to be self sufficient and are proud to have done their own work.

IMHO, if you are going to PAY a "pro" to do something you could otherwise do yourself, why even join a forum that's mostly full of people helping each other do it themselves. (sorry that sounds kind of preachy, but I mean well, honest)

And by the way, on GlockTalk, I am SFCSMITH(RET) :cheese: You know, the guy that introduced you to Heat Pump water heaters..
 
Dakotas Dad said:
emt1581 said:
I know I'd only be paying $1700 up front AND would get $500 back credit-wise...but I just don't have $1700 to put out right now. I think I mentioned it earlier but I'm having a heat pump water heater put in and that thing is $3000 installed.

-Emt1581

Just out of curiosity.. why is your water heater install so expensive? There is an electric water heater there now? The new one uses the same or less power than the existing all electric.. (all the ones I looked at the specs of were 240v 30A or less) so the circuit that is already there is reusable. I note that you feel you need an 80 gallon water heater.. we have 2 adults home full time, and friends/family/etc frequently, dish washer, washing machine etc, and have never run out of hot water with a 50 gallon unit. The GE unit at Lowe's is very highly rated, and on sale right now for less than $1400. The install is no different than a standard water heater, two water connections and 1 electrical. Almost any monkey can do it. That would free up $1600 in your budget. As someone posted above, many on here are cheap, but more to the point, many on here desire to be self sufficient and are proud to have done their own work.

IMHO, if you are going to PAY a "pro" to do something you could otherwise do yourself, why even join a forum that's mostly full of people helping each other do it themselves. (sorry that sounds kind of preachy, but I mean well, honest)

And by the way, on GlockTalk, I am SFCSMITH(RET) :cheese: You know, the guy that introduced you to Heat Pump water heaters..

Good to see you here then!! :)

I am having a new breaker panel put in as well. So it's for the panel/install ($800), the water heater ($2010) and install ($175).

I really hate that I can't take this insert because it's so cheap but there will be others.

Thanks!

-Emt1581
 
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