Jotul C 450 - First Burn - Worrying

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blowell

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Sep 24, 2010
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N. Eastern MA
I burned for the first time in my new Jotul insert two days ago. The manual speaks to break-in and the fact that the unit may smell or smoke, but nothing more about break-in. I've read some where that you need three fires - 200, 300, and 400 degrees. I fired it up the first time and had temp up to 250 - magnetic jotul thermometer on the top of the door. The unit is installed in such a way that not much of the stove protrudes beyond the surround assembly. While burning, I noticed what looked like secondary combustion, and after the burn, I noticed paint flaking off the door near the glass (two-door model). Also, blower did kick on - don't know what temp you need to do so.

Questions are these - where is the best place for the thermometer to gain an accurate reading if I have such an insert, does the fact that what appeared to be secondary combustion mean that I overshot 250 by a long shot, and does the flaking mean anything necessarily.

I hope I haven't ruined the break-in process in some way.

Signed, worrying!
 
Stop worrying. This is basically a steel insert at heart. It does not have the break-in requirements of a castiron or soapstone stove. Where is this "flaking" occurring? Inside the stove or outside?
 
Thank you for the comfort - the flaking is on the outside of the door - on the decorative metal band in front of the glass.
 
Best place for the thermometer - Top center about 1 inch back is ideal, but if yours is fully recessed this will be had to see without effort. There is a large air channel around the front of the stove, so the position you describe is likely reading cold.

Unless the peeled paint bugs you a lot, don't fret. You can touch it up if needed.

Your stove can take some really high temps - mine has hit 800*F by accident and not suffered any ill effects. I have some links below if you want some tips on using yours.

Post us a pic - always good to see the end results.
 
Thanks CleanBurnin - yees, my stove is basically fully recessed or flush with the surround. I really don't know how to get an accurate temp reading unless I take off the surround itself.

Don't know what to do about temperature reads at this point. I guess just don't worry about it until I see the stove glowing??
 
Don't know if the 450 has it, but the 550 has an opening at the top that allowed me to slide a magnetic thermometer in there. I need a flashlight to read it, but at least I have a good idea of the stove temp. (As long as my thermometer is accurate.) I placed it as centered left to right as much as possible. I assume this is an ok spot.
 
Thanks Jaugust124 - do you mean between the stove and the surround - the gap where the air circulates out from behind the stove? If you do, that is an idea - I might be able to pull off the surround, place the thermometer in there, and then be able to read it with a flashlight as you suggest.
 
Yes, that's where I mean, but I wouldn't think you'd have to take the surround off. The gap should be wide enough to slide the thermometer in there, but then again I don't own the 450. Looking at the pics on the website it looks to have a similar setup as the 550. I didn't have to take the surround off. I just slid the thermometer in and it sits right on top of the stove. Maybe the 450 setup is slightly different.
 
blowell.....I have a Jotul 450 and i did not have to remove the surround to put the thermometer on top of the stove. If you look just above the lip on top of the doors you should be able to slide it on top. The trick is that if it slides to far you are going to need a stick or a knife to slide it back towards the front so you can read it. Your only going to be able to see half of the thermometer, so turn it so the side that has the 400-700 degree range is facing you. Thats all you really need to look at anyway to know where your at.
 
Thank you again, Jaugust124 - I'm gonna try it. I can't think of a better place for it.
 
blowell,
Best of luck.
I almost bought the Jotul thermometer myself, but I opted for the more colorful Rutland. I figured it might be easier to see. I'm hoping the Rutland keeps accurate readings, I've read that they are not the most accurate.
As long as its close I guess I don't have to worry.

Kyle19, Great advice about the orientation of thermometer.
 
You too Kyle19 - thank you for your advice. I'd rather not remove the surround.
 
And I must say, the worrying was worth it the other day. It was amazing to watch the secondary flames "floating" in the Jotul. Really beautiful. My wife and kids loved it almost as much as I did.
 
Just had a new Jotul C450 installed yesterday!! I fired it up for the first burn and it was fantastic. I also had the issue with the paint flaking off in the front, which does kind of bum me out
but i know its not a difficult fix. Does anyone have a preference for firestarters?? Fatwood, etc?

Can't wait to get this thing going at all times.

I can post pictures later today
 
wrblplayas said:
Just had a new Jotul C450 installed yesterday!! I fired it up for the first burn and it was fantastic. I also had the issue with the paint flaking off in the front, which does kind of bum me out
but i know its not a difficult fix. Does anyone have a preference for firestarters?? Fatwood, etc?

Can't wait to get this thing going at all times.

I can post pictures later today

Not burning in an insert, but starting a fire is starting a fire regardless of the type of stove . . . I mostly use softwood kindling and lumber scraps . . . many folks here love Super Cedars though . . . new folks can even request a free sample.
 
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