Insulation Until Blockoff Plate

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dprosper75

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Sep 1, 2009
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Maryland
All,

I understand the importance of the block off plate especially when you have an insert on an exterior chimney. I agree it is the
best thing to do. This leads me to my question/situation. I have a 3 year old and a wife that is pregnant and in the throws of
morning sickness. Is there anything wrong with at least putting some insulation above where the block off plate would be
until life gets a little settled? Could I suffice with regular unbatted insulation? My thoughts are a little something is better
than nothing.

I'd appreciate all advice!!!

Regards........
Derek
 
stuff some unfaced fiberglass insy up in there till you get it... it won't look pretty when you pull it out, but it'll do.
 
Um, I think I've read here before atleast 100 times that regular fiberglass insulation won't hold up to the temps. DO NOT use fiberglass insulation instead of a block off plate.
 
Rather than fibreglass insulation, you can use mineral wool - I have roxul (with no blockoff plate). I also plan on installing one at some point but for now the set up is working. I'm sure it would be better with the blockoff plate, though.
 
The two main reasons most cited for not using fiberglass seem to be 1) possible outgassing; and 2) melting in the event of a chimney fire.

Any outgassing likely results in a fraction of whatever normal levels of toxins we are exposed to everyday - so yes, you can reduce your potential exposure, but there are hundreds of other ways to reduce minor risks that we don't bother taking. I have come to believe this one falls into the category of the irrelevant, but that is a personal choice.

Fiberglass should not be used in any application designed to provide protection from a chimney fire. But most of the applications discussed, as the one here, do not have that purpose. So again, I believe the fact that fiberglass melts at 2100F is irrelevant here. Even if rock wool is superior, that does not mean fiberglass is unacceptable.

From a practical point of view, however, consider that any spun fiber insulation will not stop air flow, it will only slow it. So while either rock wool or fiberglass is better than nothing, they will not fully serve the purpose of a blockoff plate in terms of either safety or heat loss. I think the mistake that can be made here is in assuming insulation, of whatever type, will serve a function for which it is not suited. For heat loss it's a toss up, but if you desire your insulation to have any safety purpose at all, there is no doubt that fiberglass is inferior to rock wool (which is used commercially as fire-safing).

Sealed blockoff > rock wool > fiberglass > nothing?
 
Thanks for all the responses. I really appreciate them!! I still haven't quite decided which way to go, plus with having a pregnant wife priorities
from management shift all the time. To give a little background...my chimney is relined and insulated and I have a block off plate screwed down
and high temp RTV'd at the top of the chimney. My goal was just to capture the heat a little more in the living spaces. I know the plate is the preferred way to go but right now just a matter of timing with life.

Again, I do really appreciate all the responses and opinions. Thanks very much!! I'm always amazed at the friendliness and wealth of knowledge
on the site!!
 
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