Recommendations for sizing wood stove in Alaska

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melmosquad

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Oct 16, 2010
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Anchorage, AK
Hi,

I am trying to help my parents get a new wood stove. They live in Wasilla, Alaska, which has typical winter temperatures in the single digits to twenties, and at least one or two cold spells of about -20ºF for a week or so every year. They heat with wood only, and have been for thirty years. Their current stove is an old blaze king (non-cat, looks like princess model?), has some cracks in it (also 30 years old). The stove does heat the house well, though it is impossible to control the burn very well these days. Looking to replace it. The house is about 1600 square feet, one story (back bedrooms always a little cool, this is fine). We're looking at the hearthstone pheonix model, but I'm not sure if it is enough. It is rated to 2000 sqft, but I hear in Alaska you ought to take that number and reduce it by some amount (20-30%) when trying to size. It physically looks to be a similar size (inside firebox) to the current stove.

Also: I have never used a stove with soapstone, and don't know if the difference in use and the feel of heat will be so much different that it may be undesirable at all. All the reviews I've heard are pretty good. Any advice on how different it feels from a steel stove?
 
Sounds like a replacement BK Princess Cat stove would be a good fit. If Hearthstone, maybe consider the Mansfield for greater capacity. Or look at the Woodstock Fireview for a soapstone cat stove.
 
We have a Hearthstone (smaller model than you're considering) and here's my take on the stone stove vs steel stove. The stone acts as a slight moderator on the heat output of the stove, nothing more. It's not thick enough to store significant heat. What it does is, well, moderate- it holds enough heat to even out peaks and valleys in the heat produced by the fire. A good comparison might be to think of a gas gauge. Our old JD tractor had a float that was tied directly to the needle- the needle would bounce all over. Cars have a pretty heavy handed filter on the gauge- it doesn't move fast ever. Same idea with the steel/stone stove.

I think the stone stoves have no equal in looks...

N
 
melmosquad said:
Also: I have never used a stove with soapstone, and don't know if the difference in use and the feel of heat will be so much different that it may be undesirable at all. All the reviews I've heard are pretty good. Any advice on how different it feels from a steel stove?

Up your way, if you're gonna go stone, go big stone.

http://www.hearthstonestoves.com/wood-stoves/stove-details?product_id=1

I'm considering going soapstone myself. My take is that, because soapstone has a high specific heat capacity coupled with high thermal conductivity, it evens out the heat very well throughout the entire stove. That means that the stove will feel better because the whole thing is near the same temp, as opposed to a metal stove which usually has hot spots that really blast out the heat from small areas of the surface. So far, the soapstone stoves I've been checking out definitely feel "softer" to me, but I attribute that feel to the overall uniform temps rather than any intrinsic quality (like "frequency" :roll: ) of the material itself.
 
Seems like those Blaze Kings are pretty popular up your way, must be a good reason for it. I think I'd stick to Blaze King.
 
Big. Really, really big. I would go for the one ABOVE the max recommended sq ft for your house.

Then again I say this as a Texan who thinks 60 degrees is cold, so YMMV.

~Rose
 
wingarcher said:
We have a Hearthstone (smaller model than you're considering) and here's my take on the stone stove vs steel stove. The stone acts as a slight moderator on the heat output of the stove, nothing more. It's not thick enough to store significant heat. What it does is, well, moderate- it holds enough heat to even out peaks and valleys in the heat produced by the fire. A good comparison might be to think of a gas gauge. Our old JD tractor had a float that was tied directly to the needle- the needle would bounce all over. Cars have a pretty heavy handed filter on the gauge- it doesn't move fast ever. Same idea with the steel/stone stove.

I think the stone stoves have no equal in looks...

N

I would have to disagree, I have the Hearthstone Mansfield, I think not only does the stone "moderate" the heat, I personally think it is (at least mine is) thick enuf to store some significant heat when compared to steel and or cast stoves, Hours of heating potential beyond that which a metal stove has when (this is the key) the fire dies down. IMHO you do not need to load as often due to the this and you will use less wood over the long haul. Of course this is what I think, I am sure others will both agree and disagree.
 
If your folks got 30 years of service as a full-time heater out of that old Blaze King, there ought be no reason to even consider replacing it with anything else but another Blaze King.

Do some searches here for Blaze King and you'll find mostly stellar reviews. There are a lot of folks in cold country that swear by them. Just know its an EPA stove, like any you will be buying, and operation of the stove will be a new learning curve for your Dad.

I have several friends here in Nome who recently purchased the Hearthstone Heritage, and they love them. I also have two friends with the new gen Blaze King Ultra Princess stoves, and you won't get them to consider anything else.

I still have two older Blaze's in service, a Princess at one cabin, a Baby Blaze in another. Both still great heaters....smoke monsters, but they get the job done. And they could care less about being fed dry wood.
 
"Respectfully" I add..............your folks have been in Alaska for some time now. I figure they know what they need. Ask THEM! If it's just a matter of what "brand name" to buy.............take them to a local wood stove store (of which I'm sure there are many in ALASKA) and let THEM decide what they want.

The only thing I think might be more helpful to them, is to find out if there have been any regulatory changes as to the type of stove they are allowed to use. These days, with all kinds of new "clean air" initiatives, it is more important to satisfy the Inspectors these days.

I find it hard to believe that they don't know what kind of stove they want, but.............everyone in here will have their own preference. I personally like the soapstone models out there these days. Had I to do it over again, (and perhaps in 30 years I will), I'd buy a DEEP soapstone model.

-Soupy1957
 
shawneyboy said:
I would have to disagree, I have the Hearthstone Mansfield, I think not only does the stone "moderate" the heat, I personally think it is (at least mine is) thick enuf to store some significant heat when compared to steel and or cast stoves, Hours of heating potential beyond that which a metal stove has when (this is the key) the fire dies down. IMHO you do not need to load as often due to the this and you will use less wood over the long haul. Of course this is what I think, I am sure others will both agree and disagree.

The larger stoves have much greater volume of rock wrapped around them than the smaller ones - ours is a homestead.

We need to test the theory! Build a big fire, get the stove up to temp, then take the fire away.... :) I bet you're right- the cool off will take longer than the warm up because of a greater temperature differential. Fire temp vs stove temp VS stove temp vs room temp.

Insulating the house (in our recent experience) has a LOT to do with the amount of wood burned, etc etc- a lot more than the stove choice.

The Hearthstone soapstone does have a good, classy look to it. Our choice was between some north/south loading steel stoves that were butt-ugly and for about 200 bucks more, the Hearthstone...... Wasn't too difficult to decide. Interesting though- the dealer showed us the steel stoves first and pushed them harder- wonder if there's better profit in those.

N
 
For soapstone stoves I do not feel you can beat the Woodstock stoves. However, for Wasilla, if I wanted a Woodstock stove I'd wait for their new stove which won't be out until probably late winter or early Spring. So if install needs to be now, I see no reason to go away from the BK stove.

Hopefully our friend, North of 60, will also chime in as he lives in the Yukon so is very familiar with cold air. Also Bogy Dave, who lives not far from you.
 
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