cheap to build bridge to access woodlot ?

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Mainely Saws

Feeling the Heat
Jan 11, 2010
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Topsham , Me.
Hello folks ,
Sorry if I'm in the wrong forum for this question but wasn't sure where to post it . I need to gain access across a small creek to get into my woodlot . The span is about 1 across with a max. dept of about 6' . It used to have 2 15" culverts but they would always plug up when I wasn't there for a period of time & wash out . I have a 2000# tractor pulling a 4' x 8' trailor with a 1500# axle to load with firewood to cross this bridge . I've heard of folks cutting down & using a mobile home chasis but they are not very strong unless braced well . I was thinking of trying to find used utility poles , laying them down & screwing 2x6 PT decking over them or trying to find an old tractor trailor flat bed & laying it down to span the creek . Any ideas on a low cost way to bridge the creek that would last for a while would sure be appreciated .

Thanks ,
Bob
 
On the utility poles it might depend on what they have. Some utility poles are not that big and I'd hate to build something and fall through with a load on. Been there; done that.

Why not just make your own with the trees you already have? Then lay your 2x decking on that. You also can lay more than 2 poles; double them up. It is cheap but you may have to replace the poles after maybe 10 years or more.
 
I always think culverts are better. Why not get a larger diameter one that would not clog as easily. They are cheaper than trailers, probably a couple hundred, you only need a 10 foot wide one. To me dirt and gravel are cheap to put over it and if done properly could last for decades. A bridge would be cool but more issues.
 
Looks like there is a typo in the value for the span. Please tell us the correct span.

In addition, please tell us something about the soil/banks and what you are willing to do for abutments.
 
the span is about 16 ft across & on one side of the creek is a large boulder in the side of the bank . The soil is mostly gravel left over from previous repairs to washed out culverts . I did price a 20 ft. black PVC culvert ( 36" ) last year but the culvert alone was in the $600 range plus I'd need to pay for fill & someone to deliver the culvert , drop it in & dump the fill over it . All together it was going to be in the $2000 range . I've seen some used semi truck flat beds for under a $1000 .......
 
Culvert will channel the water past the bridge. Just about anything else will obstruct the water, and water always wins, sooner or later.
 
I'd locate a suitably graded approach, excavate it down to hard pan, back fill with suitable riprap, now you have a drivable underwater bridge. Made one threw our swamp that way but didn't have a 6' bank. Now life is good for us log draggers :)
 
Thank you for the additional info. The US Forest Products Laboratory's Wood Handbook has equations that can be used for a log bridge with decking.

I built a simple log bridge for a 24 foot span. I used two treated utility poles with 15" diameter at the small end and placed them under the tire treads. 2" x 10" (full dimension) rough sawn softwood decking. The decking is undersized and I should have used at least one more utility pole in the center. I'm careful where I drive. Deflection is less than an inch at a total live load of approx 3,500 pounds (communicated to the bridge through the four tractor tires). Abutments are nothing special and that is a weak point of this bridge. I used gravel for the two approaches. The decking on this bridge will rot sooner than later....

Used poles, in excellent condition, cost me $100 total for the two. Decking was $225. Galvanized pole barn spikes, $25 or so.

I am not a civil engineer and do not give engineering advice. YMMV.
 
My concern with a culvert or riprap with a flow throw design is that in the Spring this little creek can have a fair amount of water running through it & it's in a heavily wooded area that constantly has branches & leaves falling into the creek . I'm not at the woodlot during the early Spring & cab't keep an eye on it to clear out the debris so that it won't wash out the road . I like the idea of the utility poles & decking , then the creek can do what it wants without washing out . The creek has been freeflowing without culverts for about 6 years now so the old roadbed is pretty much gone . Thanks again for the info & suggestions ........
 
savageactor7 said:
I'd locate a suitably graded approach, excavate it down to hard pan, back fill with suitable riprap, now you have a drivable underwater bridge. Made one threw our swamp that way but didn't have a 6' bank. Now life is good for us log draggers :)

Be careful doing this, in many states you need special permits (yes, even on private property) to make a drive-through stream crossing. Not getting the proper permits can get you in a lot of trouble and cost a lot of money, especially if it has been determined that driving through the stream somehow contaminated it. I would advised against doing this if at all possible. The only time I've seen this as a practical method is if you have a really wide, shallow stream where a bridge is just going to be too costly.

My dad is a drainage contractor, he knows the ins and outs of a lot of that stuff and it's rubbed off on me a little.
 
We (Snowmobile and ATV Clubs) build bridges all the time . . . and most of these bridges are designed to carry the weight of pretty heavy equipment (typically the weight of a groomer -- a Ford Ranger, snow drag and of course the weight of the snow) . . . most of the time we've used old telephone poles (or similarly sized cedar trees) as stringers for a distance that you've mentioned.
 
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