RE: It's here, it's here . . . the Jotul Rangeley

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Random thoughts . . .

While I miss the Gothic arch and think this does look a lot like the PE T-5 I still like the look of this stove . . . and would have considered this stove in my list of possible stoves to buy if it had been out 3 years ago. I like the relatively clean looking lines myself.

I think folks might be a bit confused . . . I don't see anywhere that the stove comes with a free thermometer . . . although it's not a bad idea . . . I see the thermometer in the list under the optional accessories with the blower and a few other items. The literature on line does mention that they are including a pair of long-cuffed gloves though due to the way it is loaded . . . which again is a fine feature to offer to new stove owners.

I like the name . . . then again I know how to pronounce Rangeley ("Range-Lee" as was mentioned -- not "Ran-gee-lee") . . . and I can tell you that the town of Rangeley in Maine is very picturesque and rural . . . a beautiful place to visit. Besides . . . I figure it's keeping with Jotul's tradition of having names that folks butcher . . . i.e. "Yo-tulls". ;)

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If they made the stove available with a Jotul family styled door grille as an option, that would be a good move. They should also make it available in blue-black enamel.
 

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What is it about those gothic grills that you guys like? I like a clean window and it seems to me that the gothic arches would obstruct the view of the fire.
 
It's just a matter of taste. I think it frames the view, though on this style of stove I might like the Bennington style grillework better. FWIW, we replaced huge plate glass picture windows with some divided light windows too. In our old farmhouse the big plate glass windows did not fit at all. Made it looks like a MacDonalds. But they look fine on the greenhouse.
 
I like it a lot, I think it looks a bit like the Morso 7110 that I was so in love with (it is so strikingly good looking in person!)
Quite a bit bigger than the Morso though, I think.

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Man, they have some feature that makes it impossible to copy that jotul pic into here. Anyway. I like the arches on those stoves, but I like a really clean look like that Morso too. I think if Jotul was really smart though, they would slap a gothic arch grille on a big insert door and they would have themselves an instant winner with a LOT of folks looking for the best of both worlds kinda thing.
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Gotta say I like the looks of this stove. Couple of thoughts, though..

With such a nice big front door, what's the advantage or purpose of top loading?

Someone mentioned close clearances for install...I don't see them. How far can the back be from an unprotected wall?

Is the entire stove of welded steel, plus the cast iron accents? Meaning, NO MORE stove cement and/or panel gaskets?

Just how deep is the firebox? Will one really be able to load N/S with normal sized splits through the front door?
 
tickbitty said:
I like it a lot, I think it looks a bit like the Morso 7110 that I was so in love with (it is so strikingly good looking in person!)
Quite a bit bigger than the Morso though, I think.
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Actually it's the other way around... the Snidely I mean Rangely is bigger than the 2110, by quite a bit it appears.
 
precaud said:
tickbitty said:
I like it a lot, I think it looks a bit like the Morso 7110 that I was so in love with (it is so strikingly good looking in person!)
Quite a bit bigger than the Morso though, I think.
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Actually it's the other way around... the Snidely I mean Rangely is bigger than the 2110, by quite a bit it appears.
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That's what I said, I think?
 
tickbitty said:
That's what I said, I think?
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So right you are... my bad. The mind does funny things when I have a headache...

PS - I agree with you, I like the 7110 looks better too.
 
I'm curious whether the TL-50 shares some components with the C450.

Summit, do you know if the Rangeley is new from the ground up or an adaptation of the C450 firebox to a freestanding stove?
 
I like the looks of the stove, But not as much as my OSLO. Will have to go down to the stove shop when they get one in. What is the handle on the left for?? Maybe turn secondary burn tubes off when top loading?? Oh well glad it wasn't out when I was buying wouldn"t won"t to be the Hearth .com expermint . who would I ask ????? to???
 
cptoneleg said:
What is the handle on the left for?? Maybe turn secondary burn tubes off when top loading??
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I bet that the handle opens the top.
 
BrotherBart said:
cptoneleg said:
What is the handle on the left for?? Maybe turn secondary burn tubes off when top loading??
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I bet that the handle opens the top.
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More likely it pivots the whole secondaries assembly up out of the way for top loading. Thereby blocking the flue outlet.

I would humbly suggest that you guys wait to see the particulars of the inside construction before falling in love with it. I don't see a manual posted yet that has the exploded parts diagram or internals particulars.

Unless you are totally convinced that you need top loading, it looks to me like having this feature may involve tradeoffs that may cost you down the road. From an engineering point of view, I'm highly suspicious.
 
I would download the manuel and find out but Me and the Wife have a new one we need to learn to operate.
 
precaud said:
BrotherBart said:
cptoneleg said:
What is the handle on the left for?? Maybe turn secondary burn tubes off when top loading??
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I bet that the handle opens the top.
Click to expand...

More likely it pivots the whole secondaries assembly up out of the way for top loading. Thereby blocking the flue outlet.

I would humbly suggest that you guys wait to see the particulars of the inside construction before falling in love with it. I don't see a manual posted yet that has the exploded parts diagram or internals particulars.

Unless you are totally convinced that you need top loading, it looks to me like having this feature may involve tradeoffs that may cost you down the road. From an engineering point of view, I'm highly suspicious.
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Just making comment, Since I was a teenager I figured out that I mostly fall in Lust not love.
 
I like the arches on the doors, some people don't. That's cool, now there is a stove for them. i'm sure it will be a great product, consistent with Jotul's reputation.
 
Frostbit said:
With such a nice big front door, what's the advantage or purpose of top loading?
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Well if I had it, it would be because my wood storage is immediately to the right of the stove... going around that big door would be some extra work. So I'd be using the top so I could pretty much load it with barely taking a step.

precaud said:
BrotherBart said:
cptoneleg said:
What is the handle on the left for?? Maybe turn secondary burn tubes off when top loading??
Click to expand...

I bet that the handle opens the top.
Click to expand...

More likely it pivots the whole secondaries assembly up out of the way for top loading. Thereby blocking the flue outlet.

I would humbly suggest that you guys wait to see the particulars of the inside construction before falling in love with it. I don't see a manual posted yet that has the exploded parts diagram or internals particulars.

Unless you are totally convinced that you need top loading, it looks to me like having this feature may involve tradeoffs that may cost you down the road. From an engineering point of view, I'm highly suspicious.
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Yea probably flips the burn tubes out of the way just like the way Isle Royale operates.
 
THINGS TO DO
-make bed
-call uncle al
-go see new jotul
-eat breakfast
 
BeGreen said:
I'm curious whether the TL-50 shares some components with the C450.

Summit, do you know if the Rangeley is new from the ground up or an adaptation of the C450 firebox to a freestanding stove?
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t is new from the ground up. The firebox is different from the 450... It takes 18" straight and side to side, whereas the 450 is only e/w. They have the same door handle, however. The baffle is completely different.
 
Frostbit said:
Gotta say I like the looks of this stove. Couple of thoughts, though..

With such a nice big front door, what's the advantage or purpose of top loading?

Someone mentioned close clearances for install...I don't see them. How far can the back be from an unprotected wall?

Is the entire stove of welded steel, plus the cast iron accents? Meaning, NO MORE stove cement and/or panel gaskets?

Just how deep is the firebox? Will one really be able to load N/S with normal sized splits through the front door?
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I think the official # for rear clearance (with dw pipe, obviously) is 6". The box IS all steel, no seams, cement, or gaskets. I think the top load is more for throwing a couple at a time in... just toss 'em in willy nilly, but straight in load gives you better ability to pack the firebox full for overnight burns.

We just ordered 3, btw.... 2 w/ cast accents, one w/ steel accents. Letcha know when they hit the showroom floor!
 
Meh. It's a"boomer's stove" - as I suspected, a contrivance of Jotul marketing department. It's reason for being? "Boomers have more money and don't want to bend over to load a stove." (Their words, not mine.) And 500 lbs for a stove that takes 18" wood? Don't expect it to come up to temperature quickly. The side handle flips the secondary baffle out of the way, as I suspected. A cast iron baffle. Yuk.

IMO, this stove is full of design features intended to lure in less experienced users. I remain unimpressed.
 
precaud said:
Meh. It's a"boomer's stove" - as I suspected, a contrivance of Jotul marketing department. It's reason for being? "Boomers have more money and don't want to bend over to load a stove." (Their words, not mine.) And 500 lbs for a stove that takes 18" wood? Don't expect it to come up to temperature quickly. The side handle flips the secondary baffle out of the way, as I suspected. A cast iron baffle. Yuk.

IMO, this stove is full of design features intended to lure in less experienced users. I remain unimpressed.
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And you want one. You want one really bad. :lol:
 
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