I'm swinging back and forth on buying a premium steel stove like the Pacific Energy 27 or getting a budget stove. Please recommend some budget stoves I should look. I'm heating 1200-1600 sq ft in Iowa. Thank you everyone!
Asking for recommendations on a budget stove.
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What kind of quotes have you gotten on the PE stove you seem to really want?
For online deals this seems to be a good place for the Englanders - http://overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html
There are good deals on decent Napoleons, Drolets, and other stoves too... you might want to see what you like and do a search on here to see how folks like them. Northline Express (an advertiser on here) is giving away hundreds of dollars worth of accessories when you buy one of their Napoleon stoves... other of the advertisers on here sell stoves for good prices too.
For online deals this seems to be a good place for the Englanders - http://overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html
There are good deals on decent Napoleons, Drolets, and other stoves too... you might want to see what you like and do a search on here to see how folks like them. Northline Express (an advertiser on here) is giving away hundreds of dollars worth of accessories when you buy one of their Napoleon stoves... other of the advertisers on here sell stoves for good prices too.
tickbitty said:
Thanks for the leads. The PE 27 is 1750 locally and 1500 I believe at chimneysweeponline.com The local shop said that PE is running a promotion and I'd receive a free fan with purchase.
firefighterjake
Minister of Fire
And one thing I can assure you of - Englander's customer service is top notch. They even have active representation on this board.
Cheaps stoves are just that Cheap! If your going to put a stove in your house, buy a the best one you can. Now is not the for him to save money!
FyreBug
Minister of Fire
You could also consider Drolet, Century & Flame all made in North America with Decent Warranties.
They have a few technicians participating in these forums.
If you're looking for a good deal here are some re-sellers who provide decent products with good pricing.
Northern Tools is currently running a promotion on all their wood stoves:
http://www.northerntool.com/
also the following have been know to provide good pricing and service:
http://www.woodlanddirect.com/
http://www.dynamitebuys.com/
They have a few technicians participating in these forums.
If you're looking for a good deal here are some re-sellers who provide decent products with good pricing.
Northern Tools is currently running a promotion on all their wood stoves:
http://www.northerntool.com/
also the following have been know to provide good pricing and service:
http://www.woodlanddirect.com/
http://www.dynamitebuys.com/
70marlin said:
Not sure what the problem is with cheap, given that the OP is considering a PE product... I don't consider that "cheap", not if he was looking at the Vogelzang boxwood stove vs a barrel stove for the living room I'd be concerned, but none of the brands mentioned (Englander, Drolet, Napoleon, PE) are one's I'd hesitate to recommend. Guess cheap is in the eye of the check writer...!
moosetrek said:
I feel my statement should be validate a cheap stove would be at the lower end of the price range and yes most likely it would be coming from a box store! This is your house, why would you ever consider some less than a premium stove is beyond me? Shooting craps is what you’re doing with a cheap stove, and if you have ever played craps most of the time you lose.
70marlin said:
Have you ever physically seen an Englander NC13 or 30? Or the Century? These stove are less expensive than many others, but nothing lacking in the design or quality of the stove itself. I am not understanding the prejudice. Yes, they are basic and utilitarian, but I don't need flowers painted on the handle of my shovel either.
70marlin said:
You would have more folks with you if the Original Poster here was talking about buying a $150 boxwood stove or a barrel stove kit or something like that... but I guess he's not saying "tell me the cheapest possible stove to burn in my house" he's asking for recommendations on the lines of stoves that are sold through other places than brick and mortar dealers - still EPA quality, made in USA (or Canada) stoves but less expensive. Sometimes the fit/finish might not be quite as fancy, and maybe you can't rely on the retailer to answer important questions etc but lucky for everyone there's hearth.com!
Sorry a bit off topic, but my last stove purchase was an Englander 30. Lived in a single-wide trailer, bought it (the trailer) for a few months and was going to sell it. I wanted a wood stove, but at a certain price it became economically impractical - cheaper to buy propane. Bought the Englander because it made sense financially for my situation. It was a cheap stove, but that didn't mean a bad decision; I guess I don't assume that everyone's decision criteria include keeping it for years, or have a budget that would allow for any stove they want. To me, a cheap Englander beats the propane man visiting every month; that said I also considered the total package (stove, chimney, wood, saws, fuel, etc.) in the decision and hope others do as well. And the cost difference really depends on the amortization schedule - $1000 more for a premium stove over 15 years is negligible. Over two years it might not be. Also, what it the opportunity cost of that premium stove - if I could use the $ to buy a new water heated, windows, remodel the kitchen, etc. those may have more value to me and my family than a premium stove vs a basic one. I think the OP knows best what he/she wants, and has made some decisions based on his or her circumstances and preferences.
Danno77
Minister of Fire
Englander. Or i suppose if you don't like those, then Summer's Heat would be a good option. If neither of those suit you, then perhaps look at a Timber Ridge. definitely one of those.
I have recently purchased a pleasant hearth 1800 sq ft model from lowes, after a lot of research on many budget stoves I went with this one. mainly because of the 5yr waranty, and it is built right here in the USA. So far more than happy with this unit, a lot of heat and holds a fire for a long time, although its still aways from the fridged weather I believe this is going to be a great investment. Paid 699 for it but now its on sale for 639.
If the goal is getting the best bang for the buck, then Englander, Napoleon, Drolet (some models) and Osburn offer good value without compromising quality. The PE Super27 is a notch up and it does cost more, but also has features that may be of value like side shields built in and a fully enclosed stainless baffle. Ultimately any of these stoves will heat your house safely. Pick the one that fits best for your needs.
If you want to shoot craps, buy a stove from a dealer. You can know everything in the world about a line of stoves and run into a brick wall trying to get a problem solved by a dealer. Some dealers will be all over getting it taken care of and others are like talking to a wall.
Personally I love my Englander stove, and yes when I bought it and still today I can afford any stove made. I also love the fact that when I had a problem I just picked up the phone and called the company direct and they took care of it.
70marlin, give Harman stoves a call and get back to us with the response you get. :lol:
Personally I love my Englander stove, and yes when I bought it and still today I can afford any stove made. I also love the fact that when I had a problem I just picked up the phone and called the company direct and they took care of it.
70marlin, give Harman stoves a call and get back to us with the response you get. :lol:
BrotherBart said:
I'll Take a dealer any day of the week over a "BOX" As for Harman I've heard the rumbling's already, but not on my product, I just choose a middle of the road furnace that fit my needs, in my area I had three business plus three box's to choose from. One business wouldn't return calls (Yukon Big Jack) Kind of wish he had returned my calls looked like a fine unit. Another had a lot of stoves but only one furnace (Hitzer) which looked good but didn't have an auto damper. One treated me like they wanted my business (Harman) The box's all had some variant of the US stove furnace which had poor feedback on coal application. Plus some pimple faced kid was trying to advise me. So thats the rest of the story, I understand budgets believe me!
Considering the OP said "budget", not "cheap", IMHO there is a huge difference between low cost or budget and "cheap". There are some really good, low cost stoves out there (Englander NC-30, Napoleon 1450 as examples) that I would not qualify as "cheap". Good quality, lower cost = best value for money, BUT, you have to pay some money for them. If you want lowest cost, you will most likely get "cheap" as lowest cost are usually built to a price point and reverse engineered to figure out what can be trimmed either material or MFG wise to hit the price point.
In today's vocabulary "cheap" = lowest cost, dubious quality in materials and workmanship.
It's value for money that we want to be seeking out IMHO.
In today's vocabulary "cheap" = lowest cost, dubious quality in materials and workmanship.
It's value for money that we want to be seeking out IMHO.
Jags said:
Most of the stoves that have been recommended are premium stoves. And looked to be high quality. I took a quick look at what the box had to offer last night and yea I didn't like them. As for owning one of them, NO I haven't had the pleasure! I understand the excitement with the PE Line of stoves they look to be good stuff!
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