finally new stove installed BUT door isn't flush - do I return?

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zan78

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Aug 31, 2010
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Western MI
Some may remember my previous post on my difficulty getting a liner and honest man to do the job. I settled eventually on a lopi republic 1750 stove insert and had it installed w/ 6" liner and insulated the chimney it's going up through with the loose lava rock/vermiculite.

Anyhow, the stove works great but the huge disappointment is the door does not sit flush. the bottom left corner below the handle to open the door constantly gets black build up when I'm burning even couple hour fires. With overnight I notice even still that that corner has by far the heaviest build up.

I understand the technicalities of wet wood, and wood placement and oxygen control that factor into dirtying the glass. But the way that it constantly builds up in this corner, and the fact that I can look at the door and see that it clamps tightly shut on the top and other edges but bends out slightly at this bottom left corner (putting less pressure on the gasket) has me thinking it's faulty.

I did the dollar bill test - everywhere I put the bill it is very firm, except there. When I put it in that corner, with some effort I can wiggle it, and it does slide out more easily at this spot than anywhere else as well. It doesn't wriggle freely or fly out when I tug, but it is noticeably easier to wriggle and pull than elsewhere around the door.

The door seems fine, the hinges seem to be the problem - I can take out a bolt and then position the door to where it will clamp flush all the way around. The way this stove is constructed, the hinges are welded, and not replaceable or 'tweak-able'.

So I am faced with returning this stove for a new one without defect (under warranty), which is a big pain but really I think is what it comes down to unfortunately. I could try messing with the spacers, but I hate to think that this massive investment is faulty and eventually as the gasket wears down it will be even more of a problem and pain to constantly have to cater to.

Wondering what thoughts all of you here have on this situation. Does the dollar bill test and other signs indicate it's worth considering replacing?

Or is it all coincidence and the buildup is simply normal to happen on that edge, especially since that would seem to be the spot of coldest air to hit when opening the door to load more wood once in awhile?

Thanks for all your thoughts.

heres a pic too, you can see how it bends out:
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Lopi, from what I have seen here, has pretty good customer service. Before returning the entire stove, see if they will send you a new door to see if that is the issue. It would be a hell of a lot easier if it was just a door issue.
 
Call the rep and have 'em look at it. Or call the dealer and have 'em look at it. I always call out companies for shoddy workmanship and hold them accountable, to accept less than perfect when buying new is a great offense to me. "I purchased this stove in good faith, expecting it to be manufactured correctly, the door does not fit properly, please make it right" would be one of my first statements, then I'd add "I did not purchase a brand new stove expecting to get a crooked door", then I might add, "did you have in mind a stove with a faulty door when you sold it to me?" because "I did not have in mind a stove with a faulty door when I purchased it!"

I've edited to add this.....Check the gasket closely on that door, it may be installed wrong, not seated properly, causing the door to not close flush all around.
 
I think yes the first step they would do as a manufacturer would be the door. It seems to be a hinge issue, but perhaps the hook going into the hinge (that's on the door) could be the issue. The thing is when I take the hook out of the hinge and close the door, it sits flush. So the problems lies in how its fitting into the hinge, or the hinge itself is slightly crooked.

I did have a rep out this morning who did admit to the fact its not an even fit. I will have a closer look at the gasket and see, but it doesn't seem to be the issue, because of how it closes flush when I disengage the door from the hinge.
 
Basically wondering...is it all coincidence and the buildup is simply normal to happen on that edge (b/c of opening the door?), especially since that would seem to be the spot of coldest air to hit when opening the door to load more wood once in awhile?

If not...then I might have to replace the entire stove unfortunately...

any thoughts greatly appreciated.
 
My door on my Endeavor (same fire box as your stove) sagged when I got my stove, leaving a little crack in the top left corner where you could see the fire if you were in a dark room. I called the dealer and got this bit of handy advice: pull the hinge pins and the door. Then take a rubber mallet and hit the hinge pin "loops" to move them. In my case, to raise the left corner of the door, that meant moving the bottom loop towards the stove and the top hinge away from the stove about 1/8" to 1/4". Worked like a charm.
 
Looking closely at the photo, it appears that the left side of the door does diverge from the face of the stove, as you move your eye from the top to the bottom. It also looks like the right edge of the glass frame is not parallel to the left edge -- and that there is, indeed, a twist, or warp. I had a lopi many years ago. It was a wonderful stove, but once, there was a problem, and the customer service (by the dealer, but authorized by the factory) was terrific.

Regards
 
Could be just uneven gasket too, as has been suggested
I had a look at mine and I notice mine has a much thicker gasket.
Here's a pic
stovedoor.JPG
 
Carbon_Liberator said:
Could be just uneven gasket too, as has been suggested
I had a look at mine and I notice mine has a much thicker gasket.
Here's a pic
stovedoor.JPG

Thanks for sharing that pic, thats interesting. Our gasket is a bit different - I did take the pic with it shut so that might account for some difference, but having a look at the gasket some of it seems bulky near the hinges and thin near the door clamp - don't know if this is the cause of, or result of the uneven fit. Going to bang away at the hinge tomorrow - try to manipulate it just a bit, if the fits still bad, will be in touch with the dealer for a new door I think. I really hope the situation can be resolved with either of those - I don't want to go through installing a new stove again.
 
My Gasket looks kind of in between the two you showed here. Does not look Quite as thick as "carbon liberators"" but shows a little more than Zan78s.
It's hard to tell from that pic that the door is uneven but it certainly sounds like it. Definitely get it fixed however the dealer/manufacturer recommends and offers, and don't accept otherwise. Perhaps it is as simple as tapping a hinge or something but they should really take care of it for you. If not the hinge, a new door, if not the door, a new stove! These are great stoves and this is definitely not something you should have to accept.
 
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