Canadians Getting robbed

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Hey, lighten up, folks. Everything is not government conspiracy. We have 1/10th the population of the US and therefore 1/10 the domestic market. There are market forces at play.
 
Corny said:
Hey, lighten up, folks. Everything is not government conspiracy. We have 1/10th the population of the US and therefore 1/10 the domestic market. There are market forces at play.
I dont buy that.
Please explain how market forces work when you have the raw material and the mills in your backyard and yet you pay *alot* more than people south of the border?
The truck can only carry so many tons of product regardless of the destination has a population of a thousand or millions.
Like I said before, get out while you can. It is only going to get worse.
Arabian greed is bad, but American greed is even worse.
 
Amaralluis, no single merchant has the same buying power. There is less competition. These are two market-based explanations.

I'm happy where I am. I wish you the same.
 
Corny said:
Amaralluis, no single merchant has the same buying power. There is less competition. These are two market-based explanations.

There is competition, or at least theres several brands available some in the area and others from far away. But competition works in a funny way in Canada. They all sell for the same price. Different geographical area, different raw material, but same price at the store. Amazing.
Is that your market-based explanations as well?

I'm happy where I am. I wish you the same.
What that has to do with anything? You like to be gouged?
 
Amaralluis said:
What that has to do with anything? You like to be gouged?

Nope. I'm burning corn this year for significantly less than what you pay for pellets. Different product. Different market. Not even any taxes. Best wishes. -- Corny
 
Corny said:
Amaralluis said:
What that has to do with anything? You like to be gouged?

Nope. I'm burning corn this year for significantly less than what you pay for pellets. Different product. Different market. Not even any taxes. Best wishes. -- Corny
Thats what I like to hear. :)
 
Corny said:
Amaralluis said:
What that has to do with anything? You like to be gouged?

Nope. I'm burning corn this year for significantly less than what you pay for pellets. Different product. Different market. Not even any taxes. Best wishes. -- Corny
I don't think that I can burn corn ,I would have to change my chimney . But I like that you are doing that .I have been buying pellets from people that have gone back to wood and other fuels and saving a bit that way .I do wish I could burn corn .
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
Excell said:
... plus tax 12%

There's your first problem.
I don't know how many ,but some States have sales tax as well .I know Minnesota and Texas for sure . Personally I don't think there should be sales tax on
pellets in a Country that has -50 winters . So you are right that is the first problem that we have . The second is that these guys are getting together and setting the
price . How else can the price be the same from one side of the country to the other ,no mater what brand ,or where they were made .The third problem is that Europe
will buy everything we can make .That is actually good for us economy wise .
 
Excell said:
I don't know how many ,but some States have sales tax as well .I know Minnesota and Texas for sure .

We have 6.5% sales tax in MA, but (amazingly for Taxachusetts) no sales tax on pellets.
 
12% sales tax? Try 15% in Nova Scotia. The Premier who raised the sales tax 2% actually had the nerve to state that he thought raising the tax would "stimulate" economic development in the province.

Even better: in PEI, the Federal tax is applied to both the purchase price and the Provincial portion of the tax - that's right: a tax on tax.

Brutal taxes, but it is a great place to live.
 
BTU said:
Excell said:
I have been reading this forum ,and see you are paying $225.00 for pellets that come from Canada . I can not find anything in Winnipeg for less than $300.00 per ton plus 12% tax . This doesn't make sense .Some one is stuffing money in there pockets . Not only that but the pellets that are made in Winnipeg turn my glass black and don't give as much heat . Winnipeg forest products ,not bad for heat but dirty . Prairie pellet co ,no heat and dirty . We also have very limited choice for buying them .
I may have to drive 60 miles to pick up some hardwoods ,made in US .I won't save much but at least I will be warm .

We are not right in Winnipeg but have 3 dealers in the area

Oughton Pellet Stove Stonewall, MB 204 467-5688
C.T. Loewen Steinbach 204 326-3481
Lewis & Sons Austin 204 637-2277 May be too far from Winnipeg


Good luck.........
Thank you I go to Steinbach occasionally .I will pick up a few to try .
 
I finally got some pellets at a reasonable price . Rona have them on sale At $3.99 a bag . It was also 15% off day that made it about $3.50 a bag that is the lowest that I have ever paid . I like it . I now have 70 bags which should heat my garage for the rest of the winter .
I am not a pellet pig yet just a piglet .
 
heck here in Maine heating fuel is not taxable at all. But in turn think of this, I go into the emergency room for a very minor procedure and with a great health insurance policy that I pay $2000 a year for for the family still cost me $1200....the price you just paid for in taxes on pellets up there in CANANDA just paid for three heart transplants and two blown out knees for some old guys hauling 40# bags of pellets to thier basement.....
 
mascoma said:
rowerwet said:
your higher price is tied to the price for fuel in all the stages of pellet making and transport, part of the reason pellet prices follow the price of oil, from the chainsaw/skidder that cuts the tree, trucks that move them, electricity costs for the mill that process the tree, plastic in the bags, to the trucks that move the tons to you, oil is still very involved. You can thank the higher taxes of Socialism for much of that, taxes on heat fuel is just the final kick in the teeth.

Other than taxes on final product, your argument is bunk if the same product is less when purchased in US, no?
quite a few countries wave taxes on exports, look at Europe and the VAT taxes, they don't charge them on exports to try and even the field for exporters. I don't know if Canada has a VAT or not but I would bet the "hidden" taxes are higher compared to US that businesses have to pay.
 
yknotcarpentry said:
heck here in Maine heating fuel is not taxable at all. But in turn think of this, I go into the emergency room for a very minor procedure and with a great health insurance policy that I pay $2000 a year for for the family still cost me $1200....the price you just paid for in taxes on pellets up there in CANANDA just paid for three heart transplants and two blown out knees for some old guys hauling 40# bags of pellets to thier basement.....

I have two knee replacements ,and a heart quadruple by pass operation . If I would have had to pay for all of that I would be out in the street bankrupt and homeless .
So I will take the tax ,and the cold ,and as long as I can a ford to I will go to Texas for a month in the winter . Ha ha can't leave my pellet stove for longer than that .
 
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