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ecocavalier02

ecocavalier02

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Well today this is the second time this has happened to me i think i know the answer but want to here what you guys think. i load the stove on a hot bed of coals and the pieces i threw in first were small and very dry so they caught very quickly. i still had to load the rest of the stove. so i continue loading and having the door open more than id like while the flames building up still trying to load the stove. so by the time i shut the door its going good and then as soon as i shut the door i here a puf puf like and the chimney gets warmer and warmer quickly so i shut the damper quick and it stops immediately. i know theirs not creosote build up checked it today. i think i need to let the last load burn down more and get the door shut before its raging. i think the build up of gases gets going good also then puff i shut the door and its like oh crap. i need to let the last load burn down to coals more and get the door shut quickly.
 
also reading the manual it states leaving the loading door open after fire is well established may cause premature failure to the combuster. wondering what that means totally. does it cause the gases to ignite prematurely in the combuster. i know i had that door open way to long. i need to let the burn down more before reloading i was just in a hurry before work and didnt want the stove to die out.
 
Was the cat high in the active zone?
 
yes it was.
 
When the stove is hot, you have to load it quickly and get the door shut again. If you do it fast, it can work. I often sneak one big log in before bed. That works, but it's always best to let it burn down as far as possible.

Small stuff and a slow loading procedure over hot coals is looking for trouble.
 
I have a feeling it was just to much smoke when you closed the door..cat fired it off before it passed through maybe?
I pretty much do what you said as to how it should be done.
But I know there are times when there is not time to do that all that should be done with a cat stove as far as loading especially.
I have only had mine since last sat. ..still getting acquainted with it..but i think we will get along fine once I learn her personality..lol.
Anyways,I have put wood on a hot fire( cat glowing) and did not have what happened to you,happen to me..yet..lol.
I opened the air all the way just before I opened it..opened the by-pass up and maybe had the door open for 30 seconds.
After loading I let it burn for maybe 10 mins then closed the by-pass...then maybe 5 mins latter I turned it down to 2.5..I heard the air door shut.
The cat climbed almost to the top so i turned the fans on for awhile to load it up some...she started dropping some..but I don't think I had to run the fans.. just did.

I don't know if it's possible to have a back draft through the cat..if it is maybe that's
what happened to you?
 
i was thinking the same thing that cat lit of all those gasses when i shut the door. im gonna from now on let it be low in the active range. and let the coals burn down more. just have to get my timing right so theres not so much left in the mornings when i dont have to time to wait for it to burn down. maybe throw some bigger stuff on and then shut it down quick if its all lit as soon as i shut the door.
 
I have not opened anything but the door and shoved a decent size piece in there...did it fast..just a very little bit of smoke entered the room.
If I read right ..someone else has done that also when there is not much time.
 
I bet you have enough fuel left in there to make it through the day if it is behaving like that. I'm amazed how long it will go on a bed of coals at low burn. I turn it down when I leave for work and reload when I get home.
 
yeah i know it had been about 11 hours and i didnt do a full load the night before and it still had some in there and i wanted it to make it till i got home from work. i should have just cranked it down lower and then left it. i've learned my lesson. this is why the manual says let EVERYTHING BURN DOWN TO COALS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
 
SolarAndWood said:
I bet you have enough fuel left in there to make it through the day if it is behaving like that. I'm amazed how long it will go on a bed of coals at low burn. I turn it down when I leave for work and reload when I get home.
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It is crazy!
I have been loading at 6:30 am...and not reloading till 10 or 11 at night...still some small chunks of wood left yet even then!
But it is warm..maybe 30-35f at night close to 50f or more for highs.
If in the dead of winter I can get 12 hour refill time..I will be really happy.
 
HotCoals said:
If in the dead of winter I can get 12 hour refill time..I will be really happy.
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You have to burn a King wide open to get down to 12 hour cycles with dry hardwood.
 
it is easy. running 12's now is cake in the princess and as u can tell i still have plenty left in there. i can 19 20 hours with hard wood. i i wish i had some pine for this time a year burn a little faster.
 
it is easy. running 12's now is cake in the princess and as u can tell i still have plenty left in there. i can 19 20 hours with hard wood. i i wish i had some pine for this time a year burn a little faster. and wouldnt have to use the hard wood for this time of year and save it for when its real cold. but 99 % of what i cut is oak and maple. looking forward to some cottonwood i have for next shoulder season.
 
ecocavalier02 said:
i wish i had some pine for this time a year
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Have I got a deal for you. And if you buy me out of my pine, I can get you into some primo silver maple ;-)
 
Better late than never...I meant to share this observation, but lost my password. The thermostat has that metalic spring that tightens when the stove gets hot and closes down the flapper, reducing the amount of air into the firebox. It does not know if the door is open or closed. So when you get a really hot fire going and then close the door, the stove is running rich on fuel and the blade is closed due to the hot fire that was being run with door ajar or open.

Then, if you turn down the thermostat setting, it takes even longer for the blade to begin to open. All this causes the firebox to become rich with fuel and low on air supply...remember what happened in your car back in the days of carbs! Back fire city!

Sometimes the stove can actually do this sort of backfire. I called Blaze King after my stove did this a couple of times and they explained it to me. I then went home, did exactly what you are not supposed to do and it did it with a big puff of smoke. NOW I KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO!
 
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Seemlike more people are running into this, this year. I just make sure I burn down everything the. Get if loaded and get the door shut
 
BigBlockChevy said:
Better late than never...I meant to share this observation, but lost my password. The thermostat has that metalic spring that tightens when the stove gets hot and closes down the flapper, reducing the amount of air into the firebox. It does not know if the door is open or closed. So when you get a really hot fire going and then close the door, the stove is running rich on fuel and the blade is closed due to the hot fire that was being run with door ajar or open.

Then, if you turn down the thermostat setting, it takes even longer for the blade to begin to open. All this causes the firebox to become rich with fuel and low on air supply...remember what happened in your car back in the days of carbs! Back fire city!

Sometimes the stove can actually do this sort of backfire. I called Blaze King after my stove did this a couple of times and they explained it to me. I then went home, did exactly what you are not supposed to do and it did it with a big puff of smoke. NOW I KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO!
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Right on>
Sounds like its being spoken from a true links and levers mechanical kinda guy. As I like to call it... Thats how its gonna happen!
Cheers.
 
BigBlockChevy said:
Better late than never...I meant to share this observation, but lost my password. The thermostat has that metalic spring that tightens when the stove gets hot and closes down the flapper, reducing the amount of air into the firebox. It does not know if the door is open or closed. So when you get a really hot fire going and then close the door, the stove is running rich on fuel and the blade is closed due to the hot fire that was being run with door ajar or open.

Then, if you turn down the thermostat setting, it takes even longer for the blade to begin to open. All this causes the firebox to become rich with fuel and low on air supply...remember what happened in your car back in the days of carbs! Back fire city!

Sometimes the stove can actually do this sort of backfire. I called Blaze King after my stove did this a couple of times and they explained it to me. I then went home, did exactly what you are not supposed to do and it did it with a big puff of smoke. NOW I KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO!
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Okay, so it's best not to throw splits on a hot fire, and if so, to do it quickly.

That said, what's the best way to do it, if one does? Open the bypass, set the thermostat on high, and then gradually turn the thermostat back down?
 
well i guess put a really dry piece and shut the bypass immediatly. otherwords its gonna take off like a mother. i feel its better to time the burn cycles better.
 
This is a question to all of you of Blaze King Princess owners: After 12 hours, what is the temp of the stove? My Fireview after 12 hours is between 200-250 and will have plenty of coals for a quick relight. I have always wondered how long the Princess would keep the temp in the 350-400 degree range. Since we're at it, how long in the 600 degree range.
 
If I ran my stove at 600* I would need to open all the doors and windows in the house!

We have only got down to about 5* but with the stove running at ~400* it held the house at 75* without any trouble.

When I reload the stove, I open bypass, and open T Stat all the way.

Crack the door an inch or so to clear smoke (if any) and then stir the coals around.
Load the stove and close the door.
Let it burn for 5-10 mins, then turn T Stat to around 2.

Give time till the thermostat is in active (sometimes just a min or two), close the bypass, let it cook for a few mins, then turn down to 1, few more mins and turn it to straight up and down.

If I will the stove right packed full it is fine for 24hrs.
 
CTburning said:
This is a question to all of you of Blaze King Princess owners: After 12 hours, what is the temp of the stove? My Fireview after 12 hours is between 200-250 and will have plenty of coals for a quick relight. I have always wondered how long the Princess would keep the temp in the 350-400 degree range. Since we're at it, how long in the 600 degree range.
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after 12 hours with the thermostat on 1.5 with a load of oak like this morning my temps were bout 350. just pulled the lefter overs to the front and now cranked it down to 1 and ill reload when i get home from work and by then the temp is usually 200 or 250 on the stove top
 
NATE379 said:
If I ran my stove at 600* few more mins and turn it to straight up and down.
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Thanks Nate,

What's straight up and down?
 
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