Englander 25-PDVC $999! Any thoughts????

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msh227

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Nov 20, 2010
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Eastern PA
This past summer I bought my first house and it has baseboard electric heat. I wanted to purchase a stove before the heating season but unfortunately I didn't have the money until now. Long story short I have been doing my homework this week and have looked at various models at a number of dealerships. I really like the Quadrafire Castile and the Lopi Leylan but don't think I can swallow the cost of these two stoves. For $3000-$4000 I could add a little more money and have a full blown furnace.

Thanks to this forum and some other online reading I stumbled across two other stoves that are more economical. The one is the Englander 25-PDVC and the other is a US Stove 6041 multifuel. Can anyone provide me some advice on which of the two stoves (Englander or US Stove) would be the better buy?

Also my local Home Depot is selling the Englander 25-PDVC for $999 and that is not a sale price. To me that price is too good to pass up, please advise why I should or should not buy this stove. My house is a single story 1000 sq ft with a full basement. I'm not worried about heating the basement at this point since it is unfinished.

Thanks in advance for any help on this topic.

-Matt
 
Matt, welcome to the forum.

You can also buy one of these stoves that is "Factory Reconditioned" by Englander through this eBay auction. I bought my 10-cpm Englander from him, and was completely satisfied. He is a good guy to deal with, and gives free shipping to the nearest shipping dock. He'll also ship to your doorstep for $50 more.

That, plus no tax, and you also get a 30% tax credit for the stove and all install costs on your 2010 Fed. Tax return.

The stove actually gets shipped directly from Englander, and comes with full warranty like a new stove.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TimberRidge-Pel...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a60a32f86#ht_2029wt_1053
 
I purchased a used Englander 25-PDVC this year and after changing gaskets ,giving it a good cleaning and all the great advice i got from this forum, I can honestly say i love this little stove, the heat that i get from it is awesome, keeps the house nice and toasty, just need to keep it clean.
 
This is my 6th season heating with the PDVC. The local Lowes is also selling them for $999. I don't see how you can go wrong with that stove at that price. Between the knowledge on this board and their tech support, you can feel confident to be able to handle anything. I went 3 years before I found this board, like a breath of fresh air. Only only one stove shop in this area and I still am the only local full time burner I know of so I have learned a lot of things the hard way. Good stove at a great price. You will have to clean it more often than the expensive models. I open the door once a day and with a tablespoon scoop some ash out of the burnpot and maybe wipe off the glass. Once a week shut it down for a 20-30 minute cleaning.
 
While a good dealer is always #1 in my book, Mike from Englander is a regular here and he can provide you with any tech support (and parts) you may need for your stove...
 
msh227 said:
This past summer I bought my first house and it has baseboard electric heat. I wanted to purchase a stove before the heating season but unfortunately I didn't have the money until now. Long story short I have been doing my homework this week and have looked at various models at a number of dealerships. I really like the Quadrafire Castile and the Lopi Leylan but don't think I can swallow the cost of these two stoves. For $3000-$4000 I could add a little more money and have a full blown furnace.

Thanks to this forum and some other online reading I stumbled across two other stoves that are more economical. The one is the Englander 25-PDVC and the other is a US Stove 6041 multifuel. Can anyone provide me some advice on which of the two stoves (Englander or US Stove) would be the better buy?

Also my local Home Depot is selling the Englander 25-PDVC for $999 and that is not a sale price. To me that price is too good to pass up, please advise why I should or should not buy this stove. My house is a single story 1000 sq ft with a full basement. I'm not worried about heating the basement at this point since it is unfinished.

Thanks in advance for any help on this topic.

-Matt

A good choice and it`s sized right for your house. (1000sq ft) At $999 the 25 PDVC is a he!! of a bargain. I`d not hesitate to recommend this stove to anyone.
 
Sounds good, thanks for the advice. I agree the price is right and from what it sounds there is plenty of help on this forum and it sounds like they are decent and reliable stoves.

Maybe I'm opening a bag of worms here but does an ash pan really beneficial or is a stove without an ash pan just as good? I'm guessing it is a convenience thing more so than a functionality thing.

Anyone have any input on the US STOVE 6041 Multifuel? On first impression up close this stove is a monster compared to the Englander and I'm afraid it will not fit with my house as far as looks and it might possibly throw my living room layout out of sorts.

Thanks again.

-Matt
 
A stove with an ash pan is a bit easier to clean per say. You can remove and dump the ash with the ash pan. If there is no ash pan you have to either sweep the stove out or vacuum it. Not a big deal either way. Even with an ash pan you will still need to sweep and vacuum the stove. More personal preference I'd say.

I helped a friend install a 6041. It seemed like a decent stove. It has the multifuel feature with the stirrer in the burn pot. This was the reason they bought it. They don't heat a large area maybe 900 sqt feet. But it is doing well for them. Stove hasn't been used higher than medium heat level. They have burned some below average pellets and some very nice pellets. The stove has proformed well on either. You will need to call US Stove if there is an issue, But they haven't had any at all. Just some learning curve issue's with the operator of the stove.

imacman has the multifuel Englander stove. He's been pretty happy with it and also burn's any pellet no problem. A multifuel stove is far more tolerant to lower grade pellets and usually have better igniters because they must ignite corn. But I am multifuel biased. :)

I echo the Welcome and glad you stopped by. Keep us posted on what you decide. Don't forget the install pictures. :)
 
imacman said:
Matt, welcome to the forum.

You can also buy one of these stoves that is "Factory Reconditioned" by Englander through this eBay auction. I bought my 10-cpm Englander from him, and was completely satisfied. He is a good guy to deal with, and gives free shipping to the nearest shipping dock. He'll also ship to your doorstep for $50 more.

That, plus no tax, and you also get a 30% tax credit for the stove and all install costs on your 2010 Fed. Tax return.

The stove actually gets shipped directly from Englander, and comes with full warranty like a new stove.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TimberRidge-Pel...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a60a32f86#ht_2029wt_1053
wow what a great deal that was.. plus a 30% credit cant go wrong there .
 
removable ash pan for me is now one of the options i'd be looking at if buying a unit, much better/easier to clean.
 
Any ash that you can just pull out in a pan undisturbed will allow you to have less ash dust moving about in the home. My ash pan only has to be dumped after half a ton of burning. I can take it outside and dump in into a metal trash can that has a cover. I use the ash on ice, (can be messy) and I use it on the lawn and in the garden to sweeten the soil. I run a vac any time I am doing any cleaning of the stove. cuts the dust way down and no asthma attacks!
 
My Harman has an ash pan but it`s not wall to wall and ashes are all over the place anyway . The advantage is I can go a month or nearly a ton of pellets without having to vacuum out the stove.
Actually I think having to vacuum out the Englander every few days or more is a good thing since it keeps the stove clean . Either way ,no big deal.
 
imacman said:
Matt, welcome to the forum.

You can also buy one of these stoves that is "Factory Reconditioned" by Englander through this eBay auction. I bought my 10-cpm Englander from him, and was completely satisfied. He is a good guy to deal with, and gives free shipping to the nearest shipping dock. He'll also ship to your doorstep for $50 more.

That, plus no tax, and you also get a 30% tax credit for the stove and all install costs on your 2010 Fed. Tax return.

The stove actually gets shipped directly from Englander, and comes with full warranty like a new stove.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TimberRidge-Pel...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a60a32f86#ht_2029wt_1053

Agreed! This is how I purchased my stove and am very satisfied. Few will argue on this forum Englander stove value for the price, and their support is the best. I saved at least $300 that went a long way toward my pipe. And yes they will stand by the refurbished warranty.

BTW, don't forget to budget for your exhaust pipe. If this is your first install make your life easier and buy the Excel. IMHO, it is the best and last pipe you will ever buy.

With only 1000 sqft to heat, and a central location you should be able to easily heat that house.
 
I would agree the Englander is a good stove for the money. I would buy another stove from them. Besides yearly maintenance the only part I have purchased is a lower auger assembly $75. I received it in just a few days. This is during the forth winter season using it in the cold northeast. The ash pan on the new model doesn't mean that much to me if the auger tube has to be scraped often. I think the new model includes an ash pan and has improved the location of the burn pot and auger tube.

Here is a TimberRidge refurbished with free shipping with a buy price of $895 and a current bid at only $799. I believe the Timberidge is idenctical to the Englander PDVC-25. There are both made by Englander.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TimberRidge-Pel...65894585&ps=63&clkid=5134985044639742002#shId
 
msh227 said:
This past summer I bought my first house and it has baseboard electric heat. I wanted to purchase a stove before the heating season but unfortunately I didn't have the money until now. Long story short I have been doing my homework this week and have looked at various models at a number of dealerships. I really like the Quadrafire Castile and the Lopi Leylan but don't think I can swallow the cost of these two stoves. For $3000-$4000 I could add a little more money and have a full blown furnace.

Thanks to this forum and some other online reading I stumbled across two other stoves that are more economical. The one is the Englander 25-PDVC and the other is a US Stove 6041 multifuel. Can anyone provide me some advice on which of the two stoves (Englander or US Stove) would be the better buy?

Also my local Home Depot is selling the Englander 25-PDVC for $999 and that is not a sale price. To me that price is too good to pass up, please advise why I should or should not buy this stove. My house is a single story 1000 sq ft with a full basement. I'm not worried about heating the basement at this point since it is unfinished.

Thanks in advance for any help on this topic.

-Matt

Matt, are you by any chance a veteran? Home Depot gives vets 10% off of all purchases. So does Lowes. That's another 100 bucks savings!
 
Yes I am a Vet and I'm one step ahead of you with the 10%, I will definetly using that to my advantage. Plan is to go buy this stove either tonight or tomorrow night. With the 10% military discount and the 30% tax credit this stove just went from $1000 to $600 in a matter of seconds. Pretty excited about that!


Currently I'm in the process of planning my hearth. Big decision is if I want to raise it up on a frame of have a low-profile hearth.

Thanks for everyones advice and tips.
 
msh227 said:
Yes I am a Vet and I'm one step ahead of you with the 10%, I will definetly using that to my advantage. Plan is to go buy this stove either tonight or tomorrow night. With the 10% military discount and the 30% tax credit this stove just went from $1000 to $600 in a matter of seconds. Pretty excited about that!


Currently I'm in the process of planning my hearth. Big decision is if I want to raise it up on a frame of have a low-profile hearth.

Thanks for everyones advice and tips.

First, thanks for your service!!! I was a submariner, which might explain the warped sense of humor........ and also the torpedo juice soaked innards. Yea, that's hard to pass up for that price. If they sold them down here at HD or Lowes, I'd buy one for the small room downstairs. Remember you can also write off all the piping, sealant, and even labor (if you can find a blank invoice........ :red: )

Going from baseboard electric heat to pellet stove is going to save you a bundle!!!!
 
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