Problems with 55-SHP-240 again...

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ResQmedic121

ResQmedic121

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Feb 20, 2008
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Johnsonville NY
Happy Thankgiving,
Fired up the stove after dinner this evening and same story. Stove burns dirty and burnpot fills up and jams the Auger, thinking of making it a Boat Anchor in the spring. But then tonight it surprises me more. I am sitting in my chair and I see the firebox filling with smoke and then a LOUD Puff and Smoke and Embers (Hot) fly out the OAK then the stove works again, same way, Crappy. So now not only does it heat for 20-30 minutes then get dirty and Jam it wants to start my house on fire.
Honestly does anyone have luck with this thing.... If so what are you doing??? Some answers to the Questions people are going to ask:
1. Yes the stove is clean I tear it apart every other day and it is clean as a whistle
2. Dollar bill test is good for Glass, Ashpan, and Hopper lid
3. Northern Pellets
4. Out 10 inches up 3 feet
5. No wind out, at all
6. Bottom numbers 1-9-1 all it will burn on
7. Called englander over 10 times, no help
8. Rocky Pot Ajustment made (No difference)
9. New Exhust fan
 
Since you've called Englander 10 times and claim they're "no help", I doubt that anyone here will be able to help you.

Don't make a boat anchor out of it. I will be up to take the problem off your hands whenever you want. I'll even give you $100 for it......you're only a 2 hr. drive from me.
 
What was the rocky pot adjustment?

I looked a several England Stove Works units at one of the local big boxes today including a 240.

I noted the following things:

1: Burn pot welding job isn't the cleanest I've ever seen, I doubt if the welder could sign his name using his torch.
2: The units ash pan door was damn near impossible to get locked shut.
3: The insides of the stove had crud in it.
4: There was no way to to be certain the burn pot was not the source of an air bypass.

Would you please post pictures of your burn pot both looking at it underneath and from above?
 
When was the last time you disassembled the stove and pulled the fans and cleaned the ash from behind the firebox and the ash from the exhaust vent? Should be done after every ton that goes thru the stove...
 
krooser said:
When was the last time you disassembled the stove and pulled the fans and cleaned the ash from behind the firebox and the ash from the exhaust vent? Should be done after every ton that goes thru the stove...
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I adressed this w/ the OP in a previous thread when he started having problems....he say's the stove is clean in the original post at top:

"Yes the stove is clean I tear it apart every other day and it is clean as a whistle"
 
Well after posting and getting help from here I looked at the stove and came to the following conculsions:
Air needs to go thru the burnpot and any deveation of such is BAD, so everywhere it doesn't have to go was elimanatied. First the hole that goes through to the Ashpan was closed off with Tinfoil and Duct tape. While I was looking I noticed the 2 side cleanouts so tinfoiled them too!!!! Recleaned the whole stove and checked all the gaskets, all OK. Checked and cleaned the OAK and reinstalled. I have been burning it since Saturday and on 3-3 it is keeping the house warm and I am happier. The stove is working better. The burnpot question from before is this, some of the Burnpots where not striaght and/or square so the Englander Stove works fix is a Tube of Stone cement and a roll of gasket. You cut the gasket and make one for the bottom of the burnpot. It seems to work.
 
ResQmedic121 said:
Well after posting and getting help from here I looked at the stove and came to the following conculsions:
Air needs to go thru the burnpot and any deveation of such is BAD, so everywhere it doesn't have to go was elimanatied. First the hole that goes through to the Ashpan was closed off with Tinfoil and Duct tape. While I was looking I noticed the 2 side cleanouts so tinfoiled them too!!!! Recleaned the whole stove and checked all the gaskets, all OK. Checked and cleaned the OAK and reinstalled. I have been burning it since Saturday and on 3-3 it is keeping the house warm and I am happier. The stove is working better. The burnpot question from before is this, some of the Burnpots where not striaght and/or square so the Englander Stove works fix is a Tube of Stone cement and a roll of gasket. You cut the gasket and make one for the bottom of the burnpot. It seems to work.
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The burn pot I saw had weld globs on the bottom that hadn't been ground off no way was that puppy going to sit right. There isn't supposed to be any way for almost all of the incoming air to not go through the burn pot, (some air is frequently allowed through an air wash system however this is a very small percentage of what the combustion blower pulls through the stove. Clean outs are supposed to have covers if they can disrupt disrupt air flow. The ash pan area also should be able to be open to the burn pot, but where the ash pan is has to be completely sealed including the ash pan door.

That was another thing I noted above.

Glad things are looking up. I'd write a letter to England Stove Works showing what you did to get the stove working and ask why. Address it to Mike Holton and whoever the President is.
 
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