Installation question

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Which liner to use??

  • Screw this! Let’s call a pro... (I REALLY don’t want to do this)

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KSgrown

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After deciding that the local pros were overpriced, I decided to purchase and install my fireplace insert and flue liner on my own. I feel that I am plenty capable, I will have a little help, and I've done the reading and research to feel confident that I can do it. I purchased a little century stove from Northern Tool and it's on it's way. Now to purchase the liner... I've decided on Flex King Pro with insulation. I was struggling with length, top cap type and after tonight, flue size.

This is the info I know about the chimney:
1974 home with large masonry fireplace and clay tile flue.
Using laser tape, I determined it's 25' from existing top cap to ash dump (top of ash dump is bottom of fireplace floor), so I'll go with a 25' liner & insulation.
When we bought the home, fireplace inspector said we have a 8"x17" flue.
I did the best I could to get an internal measurement of the flue, to confirm the inspector was correct, and I measured 7"x15" internal dimension. I was probably off a little, but I was assuming the inspector was correct because that flue size was an actual check box on the inspection sheet and he didn't check the blank box and fill in a different, random size. Also, chimney liner depot sells a terra cotta top cap sized at 8"x18". So, I decided to go with the 8"x18" terra cotta deluxe top plate.

Then, I start to get nervous. I was going to go with a 6" flex liner because that's what made sense, and because the manufacturer install instructions say "minimum chimney size is 6" diameter. Maintain a 15' min. overall height measured from base of appliance." But as I look up my existing flue, measuring an internal dimension of 7", thinking that if I have a 6" liner and 1/2" insulation, that's exactly 7"..... but wait, there's mortar sticking out of clay tile joints every 4-5 feet and it almost looks like a bulge part of the way up... How is a 6" insulated liner going to fit?? I don't want to order a $900 liner/insulation kit to not have it fit. I read somewhere that a 5.5" liner will work in-place of a 6", as long as your are 20' or greater in height. Should I go with the 5.5"? Will THAT even fit?? You can see now that I'm getting nervous...

Any suggestions??
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I would say that my 6 inch flex king pro, with insulation, and the mesh that cover it are more than 7 inches. BUT that insulation is plyable, so I would think with some sort of a tapered cone on the front you could get it down. Another thing you could do is get some sort of metal rod or angle iron and knock the morter seems flush with the tiles. I've only put in one liner though, resently and luckily my tiles where 12X12 so the only trouble I had was hooking it up at the bottom.
 
Anyone know of a place to get oval liner? Maybe a 5x7 will work...
 
KS-4-Life said:
Anyone know of a place to get oval liner? Maybe a 5x7 will work...

PM forum member "TheHeatElement"

His employer sells (through him on this board) SS liner and all the connectors. Good pricing and easy to work with.

I bought my 6" liner form him last year and am very satisfied.

I bought round 6" liner, but I seem to recall that he also had oval liner.
 
If manufacturer says 6, I would go with 6. Perhaps a 5x7 oval but not the 5.
 
Problem solved!!

I called the chimney liner depot to see if they had any suggestions and they said "yeah we'll just ovalize it". So I'm going with the 6" Flex King Pro, ovalized to 4.5"x7.4" with the insulation blanket. Should work great (hopefully)!!

FYI, ovalizing was an added cost and also added shipping cost. Before, it was free shipping. Now it has to be shipped truck freight, comes in 10' & 15' sections with a coupler and fire caulk.
 
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