Fireview installed and running (pics)

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KevinG

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Aug 10, 2010
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Lancaster County, PA
About 9 months ago, my wife and I started thinking about moving from our modern stick-built home with a new propane-fired hot-air furnace (and vent-less gas logs in the fireplace) to an old farmhouse. The farmhouse was built in 1866 with brick walls and no insulation. The current heating system is an oil-fired hot water boiler with baseboard radiators. We replaced the windows and R27 attic insulation is coming in the next few weeks. And, I knew immediately that I wanted to supplement or replace that oil heat with an indoor wood stove. I grew up with a wood stove although my contribution was typically limited to filling the wood box.

So...being somewhat aware of my ignorance...I found hearth.com and started reading. It took about 5 min to discover my ignorance was vast! Most of what I had learned, or thought I knew, was wrong (cat stoves are difficult to control) or only partially true (a year is plenty of time to season wood). So I kept lurking and learning throughout the summer...

My wife wasn't very supportive of the idea. She was very concerned about being heated out of the house. We've been to various friends' homes with wood stoves. For whatever reason, most of them run their stoves so hot that it's hard to sit in the same room and visit without falling asleep or even breaking out in a sweat! So the catalytic stoves were attractive to me due to the more even burn. The soapstone looks and slow even heat seemed like a good fit as well. But the Fireview is hard to find used.

I found a used Woodstock Fireview 205 on Craigslist. On closer inspection, it had been somewhat abused by the prior owners who evidently choked it to death. There were creosote stains on the outside of the stones and the cat was > 50% clogged shut! I replaced the cat with the new stainless model, redid some of the gaskets, and repainted the iron from gray to black.

After building a brick hearth and installing a double-wall chimney (also found used on Craigslist), I installed the stove this week. We're still getting the hang of running it using mostly poplar and a little mixed harder woods like oak and locust.

Since I know you like pictures, here's a collage spanning the several months it took to bring this all together. And...thanks for your help!
 

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Nice work. You will love that even heating soapstone. Keep us informed on how the stove works out for you.
 
Yes, we'll be watching for more reports from you. That Fireview is indeed a great stove. I will also be curious on how the new cat performs.
 
Great job! That sure is a pretty stove.
 
Congratulations on your "old house" as well.
 
Unfortunately, the extent of my experience with the prior model cat is "wow, that's clogged" and I threw it away! So I don't have a point of reference.

So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Although I'm learning that a firebox full of poplar doesn't burn as long as I'd like! But a good solid split of oak or locust in the back sure helps lengthen the reload times.
 
Congrats.
 
Nice stove/hearth and very nice restore job it looks great! Enjoy the heat this winter
 
Wow I can't believe how clogged that catalytic converter was! As far as not cooking you out of the room, this is one area where the Fireview really shines. We can sit in the living room 5 feet from the stove with it just humming along at a moderate burn and we're not uncomfortable at all. The slow, steady, even heat due to the soapstone and catalytic converter is great for preventing the wild temperature swings experienced with some stoves.
 
You did a great job restoring that stove. Well done! It definitely suits your farmhouse. Good luck.
 
KevinG said:
Since I know you like pictures, here's a collage spanning the several months it took to bring this all together. And...thanks for your help!

"Oooh baby, you *know* what I like!" -- The Big Bopper

Thanks for the pics, and nice kitty. It's great to see someone use their brains and initiative to transform something. Great job, and good luck!
 
Kevin, I believe you could be tagged as the founding member of the Fireview Rescue League!

What a nice job you've done breathing new life into an obviously mistreated Woodstock; I applaud you and have a lot of respect for the care, thought, and elbow grease required to accomplish it. A nice example to set for your two boys, too.
 
A renovated stove for a renovated house--how appropriate.

I like renovation.

And now... the questions!

It looks like you sprayed it. How did that go? Another guy posted that it did it with a brush. I find the beauty of soapstone stoves second to none.

How's it heating that big house?
 
RenovationGeorge said:
A renovated stove for a renovated house--how appropriate.

I like renovation.

And now... the questions!

It looks like you sprayed it. How did that go? Another guy posted that it did it with a brush. I find the beauty of soapstone stoves second to none.

Yes, we bought 3 cans of high-temp black spray paint from Woodstock. We used a single layer of newpaper, sliding it behind the cast iron and in front of the soapstone. It turned out nicer than I thought it might. Some places, the black spray leaked behind the newpaper. Thankfully, the most obvious place was on the very back of the stove so it's not visible at all.

RenovationGeorge said:
How's it heating that big house?

At this point, it's not. There is cold air constantly trickling up through the 1st floor floor (pine flooring with no insulation and an unfinished dirt basement). The outside temps are 25 F and 20-30 mph winds. I can't keep inside temps above 65 F without running the oil furnace.

There are two problems.

1. The poplar we have is dry enough but it doesn't have adequate BTU's. And the ash & oak we have was only processed spring & summer of 2010. At 22-25% it's just not dry enough. Next winter will be a different story!

2. Although we have new windows and the doors have new weatherstripping, the attic has zero insulation. I lifted attic floor boards 2 Saturdays ago and the insulators will be scheduled later this week. They tell me I can get R22 with high-density cellulose in the 7" between the attic boards and the ceiling below. Today, when coming downstairs from the 2nd story, you can feel warmish air ascending the stairs. My theory is that this warm air isn't stopping at the 2nd story but is leaking into the 3rd story attic and up through the roof.

I'm hoping that the 7" insulation transforms the house by putting a mostly air-tight lid on what is effectively a chimney. My wife says I'm hoping for a miracle... :-(
 
KevinG said:
There is cold air constantly trickling up through the 1st floor floor (pine flooring with no insulation and an unfinished dirt basement). The outside temps are 25 F and 20-30 mph winds. I can't keep inside temps above 65 F without running the oil furnace.

There are two problems.

1. The poplar we have is dry enough but it doesn't have adequate BTU's. And the ash & oak we have was only processed spring & summer of 2010. At 22-25% it's just not dry enough. Next winter will be a different story!

2. Although we have new windows and the doors have new weatherstripping, the attic has zero insulation. I lifted attic floor boards 2 Saturdays ago and the insulators will be scheduled later this week. They tell me I can get R22 with high-density cellulose in the 7" between the attic boards and the ceiling below. Today, when coming downstairs from the 2nd story, you can feel warmish air ascending the stairs. My theory is that this warm air isn't stopping at the 2nd story but is leaking into the 3rd story attic and up through the roof.

I'm hoping that the 7" insulation transforms the house by putting a mostly air-tight lid on what is effectively a chimney. My wife says I'm hoping for a miracle... :-(


Leaky old house? I feel your pain.
 
BrowningBAR said:
Leaky old house? I feel your pain.

Exactly. Sure hope I don't end up using 3 wood stoves like you! How do you find time to cut & split all that wood?
 
First off, Welcome to the forum and to the Stoner Club. You will love the soapstone heating IMHO. I am soooooo glad I went with soapstone. You will most likely see a gigantic difference in the way the stove heats when you get that insulation in. One of the biggest things you can do, is get the house buttoned up. Your home, with its age, I am sure is far more drafty than the average home. I would bet even if you do't feel it, you have multiple heat loss areas, the biggest being that uninsulated attic. You may want to consider an energy audit, sometimes done at low or no cost through the electric supplier, to look for other leaks.

Again welcome and enjoy that heat.
 
KevinG said:
BrowningBAR said:
Leaky old house? I feel your pain.

Exactly. Sure hope I don't end up using 3 wood stoves like you! How do you find time to cut & split all that wood?


Still working out the process. This is only my third year burning.
 
Kevin-

The stove looks great. In the final pic I wouldn't know it wasn't brand new.

Also congrats on the house. Welcome to the club, you should also come join us old house loonies on oldhouseweb.... (but dont mention you replaced windows over there)

-Jeremy
 
jharkin said:
Kevin-
Welcome to the club, you should also come join us old house loonies on oldhouseweb.... (but dont mention you replaced windows over there)

I've read a little on that site but....I barely have enough "spare time" to read the topics here!

The old windows were basically non-functional after years of abuse by renters. Actually, I still have the old windows; I merely relocated them to the old chicken pen in the barn!
 
KevinG said:
2. Although we have new windows and the doors have new weatherstripping, the attic has zero insulation. I lifted attic floor boards 2 Saturdays ago and the insulators will be scheduled later this week. They tell me I can get R22 with high-density cellulose in the 7" between the attic boards and the ceiling below. Today, when coming downstairs from the 2nd story, you can feel warmish air ascending the stairs. My theory is that this warm air isn't stoppin

That should make a huge improvement. And don't forget air sealing - a caulking gun and can of spray form are the old house lovers best friend. Go up there and seal every penetration into the attic - vent stacks, elec, etc. and go around the house feeling for drafts around window frames, baseboards, outlets. I did a lot of air sealing over the summer and I can feel the difference from that alone, and like you I have almost no attic insulation in the old part of the house.
 
Rugs on the floors will help if you can't insulate the floor under the crawl space.
 
Figured it out. Today, I worked from home to be with the children while my wife went Christmas shopping. And I got tired of being cold! It struck me that if I could keep all this warm air from streaming up the stairs, the downstairs might be warmer! (Caption Obvious, here.)

Anyway, we hung a blanket at the bottom of the enclosed stairs and, viola! Within 30 min, the stove room is 80 F and the kitchen is 70 F. In my book, that's livable. Not sure what temp the upstairs is yet. Might have to invest in some more blankets!

Outside temps of 32 F and wind gusts of 31 mph. Feels like 20 F!
 
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